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>That doesn't seem true, France for example He meant jurisdictions in America. Local governments here are infamous for shortening yellow lights. The companie

by magduf 7y ago

>That doesn't seem true, France for example He meant jurisdictions in America. Local governments here are infamous for shortening yellow lights. The companies that make automated cameras even have it in their contracts that the cities must do this.

optimiz3 7y ago
> The companies that make automated cameras even have it in their contracts that the cities must do this. Citation?
- magduf 7y ago
  Let me google that for you: https://www.google.com/search?q=yellow+lights+shorten+contracts+camera+companies https://www.google.com/search?q=yellow+lights+shorten+contra... https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/red-light-camera-controversy/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/red-light-camera-controve... "The contracts in place with red-light camera providers often specify maximum yellow light times, and impose financial penalties if the city lengthens the yellow period." More: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2014/10/chicago-shortens-yellow-lights-ticket-standard-makes-8-million-off-new-tickets.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2014/10/chicago-shortens... https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-red-light-camera-yellow-light-1012-20141012-story.html https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-red-light-camera-yell... https://www.motorists.org/blog/6-cities-that-were-caught-shortening-yellow-light-times-for-profit/ https://www.motorists.org/blog/6-cities-that-were-caught-sho...
  - optimiz3 7y ago
    > The contracts in place with red-light camera providers often specify maximum yellow light times There's a lot of room for weaseling the way that's written. The contracts could specify maximum times to cover incorrect configurations like 2 minutes - that would be sensible. Technically the article is correct but it leads the reader to conclude malicious intent where there may be none. Only the DigitalTrends article talked about contract imposed maximums. In the Chicago article it looks like the city that was acting in bad faith. There is no established link between provider imposed contracts violating best practices.
lutorm 7y ago
It is governed by law in America, too. At least it is in CA.

by magduf 7y ago

optimiz3 7y ago

> The companies that make automated cameras even have it in their contracts that the cities must do this. Citation?

magduf 7y ago
Let me google that for you: https://www.google.com/search?q=yellow+lights+shorten+contracts+camera+companies https://www.google.com/search?q=yellow+lights+shorten+contra... https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/red-light-camera-controversy/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/red-light-camera-controve... "The contracts in place with red-light camera providers often specify maximum yellow light times, and impose financial penalties if the city lengthens the yellow period." More: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2014/10/chicago-shortens-yellow-lights-ticket-standard-makes-8-million-off-new-tickets.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2014/10/chicago-shortens... https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-red-light-camera-yellow-light-1012-20141012-story.html https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-red-light-camera-yell... https://www.motorists.org/blog/6-cities-that-were-caught-shortening-yellow-light-times-for-profit/ https://www.motorists.org/blog/6-cities-that-were-caught-sho...
- optimiz3 7y ago
  > The contracts in place with red-light camera providers often specify maximum yellow light times There's a lot of room for weaseling the way that's written. The contracts could specify maximum times to cover incorrect configurations like 2 minutes - that would be sensible. Technically the article is correct but it leads the reader to conclude malicious intent where there may be none. Only the DigitalTrends article talked about contract imposed maximums. In the Chicago article it looks like the city that was acting in bad faith. There is no established link between provider imposed contracts violating best practices.

lutorm 7y ago

It is governed by law in America, too. At least it is in CA.