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> Don't the icebergs already displace as much water as they would contribute? Yes, this is Archimedes' principle. However, large icebergs have a gravitational
by itcrowd 7y ago
> Don't the icebergs already displace as much water as they would contribute?
Yes, this is Archimedes' principle. However, large icebergs have a gravitational influence on nearby water. Effectively, large icebergs attract water meaning the local sea level rises and elsewhere on the planet the sea level becomes lower. When the iceberg melts, this gravitational pull disappears and the melt water is spread more evenly across the surface of the Earth. The sea level across the rest of the world thus slightly increases.
Modeling this effect is quite complex, but the above is a summary of the effect of melting (large) icebergs.
- sixstringtheory 7y agoHuh, this idea is new to me. Could you help out with a link? I only found two articles that talk about icebergs and gravity, one from NASA that only mentions taking measurements with a gravimeter [0] and a popsci article from 2011 [1] that mentions the geoid and irregular gravitational field of earth, but only sourced its “sister site” which appears defunct and simply redirected to its own front page, which looks like a garbage fire of pseudoscientific advertisement. I also found a BI article (to which I link with great trepidation) that mentions I think the same iceberg as the NASA article but mentions it is not expected to contribute to sea level rise in any significant way [2]. [0] https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/blogs/fromthefield/2017/11/13/the-gravity-of-larsen-c/ https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/blogs/fromthefield/2017/11... [1] https://www.livescience.com/amp/15605-melting-glaciers-alter-earth-gravity.html https://www.livescience.com/amp/15605-melting-glaciers-alter... [2] https://www.businessinsider.com/antarctica-larsen-c-iceberg-history-2017-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/antarctica-larsen-c-iceberg-...
- itcrowd 7y agoYes, here's a link: http://sealevelstudy.org/sea-change-science/whats-in-a-number/attractive-ice-sheets http://sealevelstudy.org/sea-change-science/whats-in-a-numbe... edit: the video in the link also provides an animation of the effect
- sixstringtheory 7y agoAwesome, thank you! I’m now interested to try some back-of-the-envelope math to compare the mass of certain ice bodies to that of the moon, and the respective distances from moon to earth and, as the article mentions, Greenland to Scotland, and compare tidal differences induced by the moon, its squared inverse distance, and the gravitational effect of the ice on sea levels.
- timerol 7y agoCan I get a source for this? It seems incorrect, given that water is more dense than ice, so the gravitational pull of melted water on nearby water should be stronger than the gravitational pull of ice on nearby water (due to the decrease in distance due to the shrinkage when melting).
- itcrowd 7y agoSee my sister post for link. The difference between ice and water is that water can freely move over the Earth's surface while massive icebergs cannot.