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Aspie/ADD affected people often times accuse others, through technical language, how someone's feelings aren't important. Yes, it is unscientific. It's my own

Aspie/ADD affected people often times accuse others, through technical language, how someone's feelings aren't important. Yes, it is unscientific. It's my own personal experience that Aspie/ADD people often can't understand how much pain they can cause other people.

perl4ever 7y ago
How do you know it's not a symmetric relationship? It always seemed inherently weird and self-contradictory to me to accuse someone of lacking empathy. How can failure to understand another person's feelings be other than mutual? Everybody ignores the feelings of others on occasion due to lack of understanding, but also when their own feelings are powerful enough to take precedence. I think it's best to assume that any time someone is causing pain, or even awkwardness, it's due to one of those situations or maybe a combination. I'm doubtful that there are really any other kinds of people.
soulofmischief 7y ago
The fact that you are even conflating Asperger's and ADD like this betray how little you know about the disorders. It's not just unscientific, it's insensitive. It's my own personal experience that Aspie/ADD people often can't understand how much pain they can cause other people. You listed your father and brother as evidence. Add maybe half a dozen more and that's your entire sample pool. It's amazing that you think this enough for your generalizations to be valid enough to share with others publicly before doing real research about these disorders.
- RobertRoberts 7y ago
  My personal experience is valid to share. And it's not insensitive to share it. If you feel you have data that counters my experience, it would be good to share. Then we can discuss both sides.
  - soulofmischief 7y ago
    Lol, you can't wrap your naive opinions as "personal experience" and then apply them to a generality of millions of people. You passed off this claim as real. Just because you frame it as personal experience doesn't suddenly make it not a form of prejudice, and doesn't suddenly make it correct and valid. I don't need data to counter your "personal experience" a.k.a. anecdotal evidence, because it was never valid to submit as a claim in the first place. There is no "both sides", there is one side: the objective truth: ADHD is too complex for you to make ridiculous unbacked claims like that. I have quite advanced ADHD, OCD and bipolar II disorder and I don't have problems with empathy; in fact, in my circles I'm known as an especially attentive listener. I'm a walking contradiction to your baseless claims. So please, try again, this time without insulting an entire class of people by claiming we all fit your incomplete behavioral model.
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    - RobertRoberts 7y ago
      Are you saying your own personal experience is a counter to mine? I accept that. There are all kinds of people out there. Sharing personal experiences is how normal humans learn about each other.
      - soulofmischief 7y ago
        Are you saying your own personal experience is a counter to mine? You keep trying to twist this situation with carefully crafted language into something that it isn't. I'm not offering you "personal experience", you are attempting to equate our statements here in order to maintain a level playing field. Unfortunately, you are trying to pass off as a generalized fact something which my very existence disproves. You can study me independently to reach this conclusion. I am a data point. It has nothing to do with my own experiences, but the very real and measurable phenomenon that is my actions in the world.
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perl4ever 7y ago

How do you know it's not a symmetric relationship? It always seemed inherently weird and self-contradictory to me to accuse someone of lacking empathy. How can failure to understand another person's feelings be other than mutual? Everybody ignores the feelings of others on occasion due to lack of understanding, but also when their own feelings are powerful enough to take precedence. I think it's best to assume that any time someone is causing pain, or even awkwardness, it's due to one of those situations or maybe a combination. I'm doubtful that there are really any other kinds of people.

soulofmischief 7y ago

The fact that you are even conflating Asperger's and ADD like this betray how little you know about the disorders. It's not just unscientific, it's insensitive. It's my own personal experience that Aspie/ADD people often can't understand how much pain they can cause other people. You listed your father and brother as evidence. Add maybe half a dozen more and that's your entire sample pool. It's amazing that you think this enough for your generalizations to be valid enough to share with others publicly before doing real research about these disorders.

RobertRoberts 7y ago
My personal experience is valid to share. And it's not insensitive to share it. If you feel you have data that counters my experience, it would be good to share. Then we can discuss both sides.
- soulofmischief 7y ago
  Lol, you can't wrap your naive opinions as "personal experience" and then apply them to a generality of millions of people. You passed off this claim as real. Just because you frame it as personal experience doesn't suddenly make it not a form of prejudice, and doesn't suddenly make it correct and valid. I don't need data to counter your "personal experience" a.k.a. anecdotal evidence, because it was never valid to submit as a claim in the first place. There is no "both sides", there is one side: the objective truth: ADHD is too complex for you to make ridiculous unbacked claims like that. I have quite advanced ADHD, OCD and bipolar II disorder and I don't have problems with empathy; in fact, in my circles I'm known as an especially attentive listener. I'm a walking contradiction to your baseless claims. So please, try again, this time without insulting an entire class of people by claiming we all fit your incomplete behavioral model.
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  - RobertRoberts 7y ago
    Are you saying your own personal experience is a counter to mine? I accept that. There are all kinds of people out there. Sharing personal experiences is how normal humans learn about each other.
    - soulofmischief 7y ago
      Are you saying your own personal experience is a counter to mine? You keep trying to twist this situation with carefully crafted language into something that it isn't. I'm not offering you "personal experience", you are attempting to equate our statements here in order to maintain a level playing field. Unfortunately, you are trying to pass off as a generalized fact something which my very existence disproves. You can study me independently to reach this conclusion. I am a data point. It has nothing to do with my own experiences, but the very real and measurable phenomenon that is my actions in the world.
      - 7y ago