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Interesting rule. In Germany there is a 1 second grace period after the light switches to red. And apparently, even if your tires crossed the stop line after t

by pintxo 7y ago

Interesting rule. In Germany there is a 1 second grace period after the light switches to red. And apparently, even if your tires crossed the stop line after the 1st second, you will not get a ticket if the photo series shows you did not move across the intersection. Urban rumors are that some taxi drivers used this to empty the (physical) film rolls on the cameras by slowly rolling forward and back across the line past the 1 second rule. I guess this does not work so well with digital storage.

lqet 7y ago
> And apparently, even if your tires crossed the stop line after the 1st second, you will not get a ticket if the photo series shows you did not move across the intersection. Indeed. For many years, there was a nasty traffic light in the Stuttgart city center (at the Main Station) which was guarded by a traffic camera. It was positioned inside a very sharp turn, and it was very difficult to notice that the light was changing to red if you were already on a position of the road which was too close to the intersection to see the large overhead traffic lights, but too far away to see the small traffic light at the side of the road. I remember my father sometimes only coming to a stop a meter past the traffic light, which always triggered the camera. It never resulted in a ticket, though, as he was standing and not moving.
- close04 7y ago
  The reason is also that when the camera captures such an event an actual person gets to look at it and take the final decision, instead of just acting like a robot and dispatching the fine. They will use common sense to decide whether it was a punishable offense. This is also the reason why it's never a good idea to flip off the camera. A court decided that looking at pictures of people showing the finger would have an emotional impact on the person analyzing them later so the fine in this case is much greater.
epse 7y ago
Lots and lots of speed and traffic light cameras still use film rolls

by pintxo 7y ago

lqet 7y ago

> And apparently, even if your tires crossed the stop line after the 1st second, you will not get a ticket if the photo series shows you did not move across the intersection. Indeed. For many years, there was a nasty traffic light in the Stuttgart city center (at the Main Station) which was guarded by a traffic camera. It was positioned inside a very sharp turn, and it was very difficult to notice that the light was changing to red if you were already on a position of the road which was too close to the intersection to see the large overhead traffic lights, but too far away to see the small traffic light at the side of the road. I remember my father sometimes only coming to a stop a meter past the traffic light, which always triggered the camera. It never resulted in a ticket, though, as he was standing and not moving.

close04 7y ago
The reason is also that when the camera captures such an event an actual person gets to look at it and take the final decision, instead of just acting like a robot and dispatching the fine. They will use common sense to decide whether it was a punishable offense. This is also the reason why it's never a good idea to flip off the camera. A court decided that looking at pictures of people showing the finger would have an emotional impact on the person analyzing them later so the fine in this case is much greater.

epse 7y ago

Lots and lots of speed and traffic light cameras still use film rolls