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i have ASD and ADD, it certainly isnt easy, while i have ability my social skills are pretty terrible and the sad truth is that is what an interview is about, r

i have ASD and ADD, it certainly isnt easy, while i have ability my social skills are pretty terrible and the sad truth is that is what an interview is about, regardless of what the job is the one thing basically everyone has to have is the ability to work in sales because thats basically what you have to do at an interview, sell yourself (in full knowledge that there are others applying for the same position with more experience and no issues) which is generally not easy when you know that youre already a poor prospect due to various conditions, and then getting asked vague questions like "tell me about a time when you were valuable to your team" i find talking about myself awkward at the best of times, getting asked to pull random events where i think i might have pleased someone etc and turn them into some mini story on the fly is never going to end well for me thats another issue, everything is about being a "team player" etc and putting it bluntly im not and doubt i ever will be, i dont do things the way others do which means im unlikely to be a "good fit" amongst a bunch of classically trained people who stick to rigorous methods in the places i have worked ive usually ended up as one of the "go-to" people, i make a point of being good at what i do but getting someone to actually take a chance on you is not easy

atoav 7y ago
I hate this as well — especially if it seems to be only about selling. I worked to lead various film crews and I can tell, that there is no correlation between how well somebody is able to sell themselves under pressure and the wuality of their work. If there was any relationship it is negative in proportion: the worst people I ever worked with were incredibly good at selling themselves to a degree you cold describe them as conmen (and it was always men). Coincidentally it was never their fault when they clearly didn’t manage to do their part. That beeing said I still think it is good to give others a chance to get to know you. It happened multiple times to me that I found out only during a project just how humble some people have been — not mentioning things that would have instantly give them a pass. Additional caveat: communications is a crucial skill to have in nearly any job and it is also a common point of failure in projects with more than one person ans any HR person worth their salary should be able to sieve out people who would hurt a project by beeing unable to communicate their ideas clearly. I think if the process doesn’t you, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to tell them before coming to the interview: “I have condition XYZ and so it can happen that UVW. To allow you a truthful judgement of my work please consider looking at $PLACES” That way a well meaning HR person has at least the chance of looking at you through with your unique context in the back of their mind.
mywittyname 7y ago
I wonder if the people instituting these policies actually understand how ASD people really are. There's a reason people in this group are discriminated against, most companies put a high value on team work, group cohesion, and whatnot. Most ASD people are not, as you say, team players. Add to that, their inherent abrasiveness and lack of social awareness, and it becomes clear that a hiring ASD people is going to create challenges within companies. I think there's this mythos that ASD people are inherently smarter than "neurotypicals," but I don't think this is the case at all. I've worked with lots of people who are charming, charismatic, and highly intelligent & technical. > i find talking about myself awkward at the best of times, getting asked to pull random events where i think i might have pleased someone etc and turn them into some mini story on the fly is never going to end well for me I hate this too. Especially since the few times I've opened up to people, it has lead to (what I perceive to be) teasing. And when you're already shy and awkward, teasing just makes you hate the world.

atoav 7y ago

I hate this as well — especially if it seems to be only about selling. I worked to lead various film crews and I can tell, that there is no correlation between how well somebody is able to sell themselves under pressure and the wuality of their work. If there was any relationship it is negative in proportion: the worst people I ever worked with were incredibly good at selling themselves to a degree you cold describe them as conmen (and it was always men). Coincidentally it was never their fault when they clearly didn’t manage to do their part. That beeing said I still think it is good to give others a chance to get to know you. It happened multiple times to me that I found out only during a project just how humble some people have been — not mentioning things that would have instantly give them a pass. Additional caveat: communications is a crucial skill to have in nearly any job and it is also a common point of failure in projects with more than one person ans any HR person worth their salary should be able to sieve out people who would hurt a project by beeing unable to communicate their ideas clearly. I think if the process doesn’t you, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to tell them before coming to the interview: “I have condition XYZ and so it can happen that UVW. To allow you a truthful judgement of my work please consider looking at $PLACES” That way a well meaning HR person has at least the chance of looking at you through with your unique context in the back of their mind.

mywittyname 7y ago

I wonder if the people instituting these policies actually understand how ASD people really are. There's a reason people in this group are discriminated against, most companies put a high value on team work, group cohesion, and whatnot. Most ASD people are not, as you say, team players. Add to that, their inherent abrasiveness and lack of social awareness, and it becomes clear that a hiring ASD people is going to create challenges within companies. I think there's this mythos that ASD people are inherently smarter than "neurotypicals," but I don't think this is the case at all. I've worked with lots of people who are charming, charismatic, and highly intelligent & technical. > i find talking about myself awkward at the best of times, getting asked to pull random events where i think i might have pleased someone etc and turn them into some mini story on the fly is never going to end well for me I hate this too. Especially since the few times I've opened up to people, it has lead to (what I perceive to be) teasing. And when you're already shy and awkward, teasing just makes you hate the world.