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The difficult part isn't knowing which symbol is which. The problem with learning the tree, or rote memorization, is that you'll learn it as a translation table

The difficult part isn't knowing which symbol is which. The problem with learning the tree, or rote memorization, is that you'll learn it as a translation table. This will slow you down to well below conversational speed. You'll "know" morse, but in practice you won't be able to use it. I think that's what you were implying with "sort of worked"? (To be clear, I'm not saying that you can't learn morse code at all that way, and definitely not suggesting that you are or aren't fluent in it.) For a really great modern approach, see https://experiments.withgoogle.com/collection/morse https://experiments.withgoogle.com/collection/morse (no hardware needed, just a smartphone). In general the recommendation is not to learn that dit, dah, dah, dit means letter "P" (and you already know what sound P has), but directly learn that the sound "ditdahdahdit" corresponds to the sound of "P". And thus cut out the middle step. There are a few more things to actually using morse: * Clean timing * Keying (straight keys aren't used anymore. sideswipes / dual lever are somewhat intuitive. iambic keying is not, but it's so much less exhausting.) * Head copy (the challenge is understanding entire words/phrases, without paper, and/or buffering it in your head because writing down char by char is too slow) * Dealing with noise (incl other morse conversations) (This is coming from a ham radio perspective, so maybe a bit different than flying school. I'm really curious now - did you actually expect to use it back then, or was this a case of mostly learning for the test? If yes, in what situation and how? ie, would you actually use a morse key? In the airplane? Or was it more about something like recorded emergency messages or similar?)

as-j 7y ago
For aviation this is getting very dated in the US. Even when I learnt to fly 20+ years ago we didn’t need it, Eveyobe had a GPS. But anyways charts had this: https://www.cfinotebook.net/graphics/avionics-and-instruments/vor/vor-receive-only.jpg https://www.cfinotebook.net/graphics/avionics-and-instrument... Basically if you had a pen paper you could just write down the Morse code then compare it to the chart. Speed wasn’t of the upmost importance. And this is assuming the VOR was lacking voice capability. For more information on using a VOR: http://www.cfinotebook.net/notebook/avionics-and-instruments/vhf-omni-directional-range.php http://www.cfinotebook.net/notebook/avionics-and-instruments... UK as I understood it was less fond of voice, and favored NDB and Morse....
cyberferret 7y ago
Thanks for your input. To answer your questions at the end - Yes, we learned it primarily for the test, but also this was more than 20 years ago, and back then, the ATIS (Terminal Information System) broadcast that gave you your weather and QNH etc. would prefix every repeated recorded broadcast with the 4 letter ICAO airport code. My local airport here is YPDN (Darwin, Australia), but in larger cities with several airports, we had to verify via morse to the instructor during a flight test that we had dialled in the correct ATIS frequency by cross checking the morse ICAO code. Also, we had to do the same verification when dialling in to an NDB (Non Directional Beacon) which is about the most basic navaid available on a plane. Because the ADF (Automatic Direction Finder) on board used to dial into an NDB was in the HF radio band and thus subject to reflections off the troposphere inadvertently picking up another NDB over the horizon, we also had to listen to the repeated morse identifier of that beacon to ensure we had dialled in and were tracking the correct one. As said, only on flight tests mainly. We soon got used to the patterns of the beacons and transmissions that we used regularly and would just listen for the pattern rather than try and decipher each letter/number. EDIT: Here is a video I found recently which talks about using the binary tree method of memorising morse code, as well as another method - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8tPkb98Fkk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8tPkb98Fkk
- Ao7bei3s 7y ago
  Thank you, that was very interesting! In particular how reflections caused you trouble, whereas in the ham world (also mostly HF) the same are desirable because anything that increases range is generally seen as good (we do use directional antennas to narrow it down). Different world. And so in the end, you did learn to recognize entire words (callsigns) at once :-)

as-j 7y ago

For aviation this is getting very dated in the US. Even when I learnt to fly 20+ years ago we didn’t need it, Eveyobe had a GPS. But anyways charts had this: https://www.cfinotebook.net/graphics/avionics-and-instruments/vor/vor-receive-only.jpg https://www.cfinotebook.net/graphics/avionics-and-instrument... Basically if you had a pen paper you could just write down the Morse code then compare it to the chart. Speed wasn’t of the upmost importance. And this is assuming the VOR was lacking voice capability. For more information on using a VOR: http://www.cfinotebook.net/notebook/avionics-and-instruments/vhf-omni-directional-range.php http://www.cfinotebook.net/notebook/avionics-and-instruments... UK as I understood it was less fond of voice, and favored NDB and Morse....

cyberferret 7y ago

Thanks for your input. To answer your questions at the end - Yes, we learned it primarily for the test, but also this was more than 20 years ago, and back then, the ATIS (Terminal Information System) broadcast that gave you your weather and QNH etc. would prefix every repeated recorded broadcast with the 4 letter ICAO airport code. My local airport here is YPDN (Darwin, Australia), but in larger cities with several airports, we had to verify via morse to the instructor during a flight test that we had dialled in the correct ATIS frequency by cross checking the morse ICAO code. Also, we had to do the same verification when dialling in to an NDB (Non Directional Beacon) which is about the most basic navaid available on a plane. Because the ADF (Automatic Direction Finder) on board used to dial into an NDB was in the HF radio band and thus subject to reflections off the troposphere inadvertently picking up another NDB over the horizon, we also had to listen to the repeated morse identifier of that beacon to ensure we had dialled in and were tracking the correct one. As said, only on flight tests mainly. We soon got used to the patterns of the beacons and transmissions that we used regularly and would just listen for the pattern rather than try and decipher each letter/number. EDIT: Here is a video I found recently which talks about using the binary tree method of memorising morse code, as well as another method - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8tPkb98Fkk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8tPkb98Fkk

Ao7bei3s 7y ago
Thank you, that was very interesting! In particular how reflections caused you trouble, whereas in the ham world (also mostly HF) the same are desirable because anything that increases range is generally seen as good (we do use directional antennas to narrow it down). Different world. And so in the end, you did learn to recognize entire words (callsigns) at once :-)