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> Niche or not “Disney won’t sell me content I want to buy” seems like a tough position for Disney to argue past. I feel that is such an entitled attitude. Wat

by zokier 7y ago

> Niche or not “Disney won’t sell me content I want to buy” seems like a tough position for Disney to argue past. I feel that is such an entitled attitude. Watching Disney+ is hardly some inalienable human right nor essential for survival. Why would anyone think their right to use a service, and cosume content, overrides Disneys well-established ownership?

scrollaway 7y ago
Disney getting paid isn't an inalienable human right either. We're talking about customers paying for entertainment. And their ownership over the IP isn't either. It may be well established in law but it's not like we're talking about the right to air and water. If Disney won't sell them the stuff they shouldn't be surprised they'll resort to other means to acquire the content.
prepend 7y ago
What’s wrong to entitled attitudes? I feel like “entitled” is some sort of jerk buzzword. Entitled is a wonderful thing. I think it’s good to be entitled to not being exploited by billion dollar companies making decisions that make like worse for people. Even if it’s just a little worse like not being able to watch a movie with your kids. Sadly, we’re not entitled to such a thing. Why is Disney entitled to oppressive “well-established ownership?” I’m not sure how one is more entitled than retaining copyright for 70 years after the artists who create something die.
matheusmoreira 7y ago
Getting paid isn't some inalienable human right either. Even if it were, Disney is not a human. Disney is a corporation worth tens of billions of dollars. It used a portion of that money to lobby for multiple copyright extensions, eroding the rights of every american. So who's really entitled here? The social contract behind copyright was "we'll pretend your intellectual property is scarce for like 20 years so you can make your profits and once the time's up your work enters the public domain". When was the last time you saw something enter the public domain? You are literally defending the company that did that. They will try again in the 2020s. They have no intention to fulfill their end of the bargain. If "piracy" could straight up kill Disney, copyright infringement would be a moral imperative. We don't even have that power.
fucking_tragedy 7y ago
> Watching Disney+ is hardly some inalienable human right nor essential for survival. Neither are never-expiring copyright laws, and there's no reason someone in a country that doesn't abide by them should have to honor them.

by zokier 7y ago

scrollaway 7y ago

Disney getting paid isn't an inalienable human right either. We're talking about customers paying for entertainment. And their ownership over the IP isn't either. It may be well established in law but it's not like we're talking about the right to air and water. If Disney won't sell them the stuff they shouldn't be surprised they'll resort to other means to acquire the content.

prepend 7y ago

What’s wrong to entitled attitudes? I feel like “entitled” is some sort of jerk buzzword. Entitled is a wonderful thing. I think it’s good to be entitled to not being exploited by billion dollar companies making decisions that make like worse for people. Even if it’s just a little worse like not being able to watch a movie with your kids. Sadly, we’re not entitled to such a thing. Why is Disney entitled to oppressive “well-established ownership?” I’m not sure how one is more entitled than retaining copyright for 70 years after the artists who create something die.

matheusmoreira 7y ago

Getting paid isn't some inalienable human right either. Even if it were, Disney is not a human. Disney is a corporation worth tens of billions of dollars. It used a portion of that money to lobby for multiple copyright extensions, eroding the rights of every american. So who's really entitled here? The social contract behind copyright was "we'll pretend your intellectual property is scarce for like 20 years so you can make your profits and once the time's up your work enters the public domain". When was the last time you saw something enter the public domain? You are literally defending the company that did that. They will try again in the 2020s. They have no intention to fulfill their end of the bargain. If "piracy" could straight up kill Disney, copyright infringement would be a moral imperative. We don't even have that power.

fucking_tragedy 7y ago

> Watching Disney+ is hardly some inalienable human right nor essential for survival. Neither are never-expiring copyright laws, and there's no reason someone in a country that doesn't abide by them should have to honor them.