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The point is it wasn't ad hoc object manipulation + cube solving, the hand had its hand held regarding which macro-action it was supposed to take next. The PR

by uoaei 7y ago

The point is it wasn't ad hoc object manipulation + cube solving, the hand had its hand held regarding which macro-action it was supposed to take next. The PR I've seen about it doesn't make this clear and is happy to leave the ambiguity because it means more publicity, rather than demonstrating a better understanding of editorial ethics.

OnlineGladiator 7y ago
As much as I'd love to give OpenAI the benefit of the doubt, I have to agree that they are purposefully being misleading to generate more interest rather than be as straight-forward as possible about their accomplishment. After the confusion over whether or not they're really "open" after taking MS investment, and what I personally consider terrible mismanagement of the GPT-2 announcement and release, I've just lost faith in the organization to be honest. They never directly lie, they always ambiguously lie, so I rarely even bother to explain to people why I don't like them and just recommend my friends look for work elsewhere.
- gdb 7y ago
  > I've just lost faith in the organization to be honest :( sorry to hear that. Note that we have a publicly-available Charter which spells out how we operate: http://openai.com/charter http://openai.com/charter. We all use that to guide our actions, and we have not changed a single word in it since publication. I hope that as time goes on, you'll increasingly see the consistency between our actions and the words in the Charter, we'll be able to win back your support.
  - OnlineGladiator 7y ago
    FWIW, just watching you interact with your critics on here has done a lot for you to earn my respect. I hope I've been too quick to judge and that OpenAI is able to make me reconsider my stance in the future.
lonelappde 7y ago
The part they didn't do was the trivial part. My phone has an app that solves Rubik's cubes based on photograph.
- uoaei 7y ago
  That's correct, and also not the concern.

by uoaei 7y ago

OnlineGladiator 7y ago

As much as I'd love to give OpenAI the benefit of the doubt, I have to agree that they are purposefully being misleading to generate more interest rather than be as straight-forward as possible about their accomplishment. After the confusion over whether or not they're really "open" after taking MS investment, and what I personally consider terrible mismanagement of the GPT-2 announcement and release, I've just lost faith in the organization to be honest. They never directly lie, they always ambiguously lie, so I rarely even bother to explain to people why I don't like them and just recommend my friends look for work elsewhere.

gdb 7y ago
> I've just lost faith in the organization to be honest :( sorry to hear that. Note that we have a publicly-available Charter which spells out how we operate: http://openai.com/charter http://openai.com/charter. We all use that to guide our actions, and we have not changed a single word in it since publication. I hope that as time goes on, you'll increasingly see the consistency between our actions and the words in the Charter, we'll be able to win back your support.
- OnlineGladiator 7y ago
  FWIW, just watching you interact with your critics on here has done a lot for you to earn my respect. I hope I've been too quick to judge and that OpenAI is able to make me reconsider my stance in the future.

lonelappde 7y ago

The part they didn't do was the trivial part. My phone has an app that solves Rubik's cubes based on photograph.

uoaei 7y ago
That's correct, and also not the concern.