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I like this question because I'm in a similar situation with my MacBook Pro 2015 despite having bought a MBP 2019, because i was not convinced of the quality...

I like this question because I'm in a similar situation with my MacBook Pro 2015 despite having bought a MBP 2019, because i was not convinced of the quality... Unfortunately i did not find a real alternative for now... My thoughts about alternatives are: # Software / OS: - Hackintosh - I don't want to bug around with hackish scripts or repeating the whole procedure on upgrades, so I refuse to do this. - Elementary OS - Linux with UI similar to MacOS (at least kind of) including Apps for the most common Tasks like mail, calendar, etc. - Manjaro Linux - Rising star of the distros, presentations i saw looked pretty good. Based on archlinux - so there is some things to learn ;) - Ubuntu / Xubuntu / Mint - well, i know them but working with them for mee feels by far not as good as with MacOS. # Hardware: - Lenovo Thinkpad T4X0S - Good value, great linux support, business quality - Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon - Pretty expensive but high end and man what a display - CLEVO N141CU (https://clevo-computer.com/en/laptops-configurator/purpose/business-and-office-solutions/2059/clevo-n141cu-intel-core-10th-comet-lake-metal-chassis-intel-uhd-graphics-thunderbolt-3 https://clevo-computer.com/en/laptops-configurator/purpose/b...) - a colleague recommended this manufacturer, i don't have any clue if this is a good value thing, but it looks very similar to a MBP with all the connectors you can think of

tristanperry 7y ago
I have a Clevo N131WU and whilst Clevo's are good for the price, the poor battery life and loud fans (without their Windows-only 'Control Centre' software) would prevent me buying one again. It's definitely not a MBP competitor.
- sandreas 7y ago
  Cool, thank you for this feedback. Are you aware of NBFC (https://github.com/hirschmann/nbfc https://github.com/hirschmann/nbfc)? Not that this is relevant to Clevo beeing no competitor but perhaps you can take control of your fan - afaik it is known to work on linux systems.
  - tristanperry 7y ago
    I'll check that out thanks. I had heard that a few other fan controllers don't work but NBFC looks promising.
okennedy 7y ago
Two other hardware resources to consider: Purism (https://puri.sm https://puri.sm) and System76 (https://system76.com/ https://system76.com/). Both of which actively target Linux with their hardware. Both have OS distributions tailored to their hardware (less need for tinkering), and both (to varying degrees) attempt to keep hardware and software as open as possible.
- sandreas 7y ago
  Cool thank you. I'll definitely take a look at this ones.

tristanperry 7y ago

I have a Clevo N131WU and whilst Clevo's are good for the price, the poor battery life and loud fans (without their Windows-only 'Control Centre' software) would prevent me buying one again. It's definitely not a MBP competitor.

sandreas 7y ago
Cool, thank you for this feedback. Are you aware of NBFC (https://github.com/hirschmann/nbfc https://github.com/hirschmann/nbfc)? Not that this is relevant to Clevo beeing no competitor but perhaps you can take control of your fan - afaik it is known to work on linux systems.
- tristanperry 7y ago
  I'll check that out thanks. I had heard that a few other fan controllers don't work but NBFC looks promising.

okennedy 7y ago

Two other hardware resources to consider: Purism (https://puri.sm https://puri.sm) and System76 (https://system76.com/ https://system76.com/). Both of which actively target Linux with their hardware. Both have OS distributions tailored to their hardware (less need for tinkering), and both (to varying degrees) attempt to keep hardware and software as open as possible.

sandreas 7y ago
Cool thank you. I'll definitely take a look at this ones.