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So much this. We work with WordPress where our non tech savvy cllients have to build a lot of content using page builders. I wish there was an easy way to auto

So much this. We work with WordPress where our non tech savvy cllients have to build a lot of content using page builders. I wish there was an easy way to auto deploy most of the content as static while keeping the power of CMS capability. We either have very User oriented CMSs including WordPress or developer oriented tools like Gatsby/gridsome etc. Sorry but my B2B client is not going to run a "gatsby build" on every new page or post creation. The sweet spot worth billions would be WordPress type.CMS that auto deploys static content while keeping dynamic features as needed. Caching plugins are just too cumbersome even though they are an option.

marc_io 7y ago
So you should try Publii CMS. It's a good use case for this. Very “client oriented”. It can deploy static sites to Netlify, Github Pages, FTP, and so on.
- codegeek 7y ago
  But does it match WordPress in terms of functionality, plugin ecosystem, ease of deployment etc?
  - marc_io 7y ago
    Regarding plugins and functionality, not really. But the deployment is easier — and free. For simple sites, it's a real alternative.
ncphillips 7y ago
A lot of the problems you’re talking about have been solved for years now. A common setup might be Forestry CMS, Gatsby SSG, and Netlify to build+deploy. And Tina Teams will be the future of that: https://tinacms.org/teams https://tinacms.org/teams
- codegeek 7y ago
  But my problem is that my customers cannot run cli. they don't even know what command line is forget running anything on it. So are you saying that Tina teams is built for non tech savvy customers who can use th CMS capability but then everything is auto built/deployed static somewhere AND it also retains any dynamic capabilities that were setup ? Here is a use case: 1. Customer logs in to Tina CMS dashboard as admin (similar to WordPress admin login) 2. Customer creates a landing page with dynamic stuff on it. Say a section with some latest blog posts. Again, this is dynamically pulling in from the database. 3. Customer also creates a "Contact Us" page that has a form that auto emails on submission. 4. Once customer has created these 2 pages above (assuming Tina CMS has nice drag/drop building capability like WordPress page builders), now what happens ?
  - ncphillips 7y ago
    > But my problem is that my customers cannot run cli They don't need to. Netlify watches your Github repository and automatically triggers a deploy when changed. They just press save and it gets deployed. > Tina CMS has nice drag/drop building capability like WordPress page builders It does! So does Forestry, it's called the Blocks feature. https://forestry.io/blog/blocks-give-your-editors-the-power-to-build-pages/ https://forestry.io/blog/blocks-give-your-editors-the-power-... https://tinacms.org/docs/fields/blocks https://tinacms.org/docs/fields/blocks
petra 7y ago
>> The sweet spot worth billions would be WordPress type.CMS that auto deploys static content that's hardypress, or strattic I'm using hardypress, no auto deploys, but for content editors, it's a easy button press on the top of the admin area. >> while keeping dynamic features as needed. is this list complete enough? https://www.strattic.com/static-tools/ https://www.strattic.com/static-tools/ sidenote: this would be extremely valuable, but as a business, it's very easy to copy. No secret sauce, no network effects, no customer lock-in.

marc_io 7y ago

So you should try Publii CMS. It's a good use case for this. Very “client oriented”. It can deploy static sites to Netlify, Github Pages, FTP, and so on.

codegeek 7y ago
But does it match WordPress in terms of functionality, plugin ecosystem, ease of deployment etc?
- marc_io 7y ago
  Regarding plugins and functionality, not really. But the deployment is easier — and free. For simple sites, it's a real alternative.

ncphillips 7y ago

A lot of the problems you’re talking about have been solved for years now. A common setup might be Forestry CMS, Gatsby SSG, and Netlify to build+deploy. And Tina Teams will be the future of that: https://tinacms.org/teams https://tinacms.org/teams

codegeek 7y ago
But my problem is that my customers cannot run cli. they don't even know what command line is forget running anything on it. So are you saying that Tina teams is built for non tech savvy customers who can use th CMS capability but then everything is auto built/deployed static somewhere AND it also retains any dynamic capabilities that were setup ? Here is a use case: 1. Customer logs in to Tina CMS dashboard as admin (similar to WordPress admin login) 2. Customer creates a landing page with dynamic stuff on it. Say a section with some latest blog posts. Again, this is dynamically pulling in from the database. 3. Customer also creates a "Contact Us" page that has a form that auto emails on submission. 4. Once customer has created these 2 pages above (assuming Tina CMS has nice drag/drop building capability like WordPress page builders), now what happens ?
- ncphillips 7y ago
  > But my problem is that my customers cannot run cli They don't need to. Netlify watches your Github repository and automatically triggers a deploy when changed. They just press save and it gets deployed. > Tina CMS has nice drag/drop building capability like WordPress page builders It does! So does Forestry, it's called the Blocks feature. https://forestry.io/blog/blocks-give-your-editors-the-power-to-build-pages/ https://forestry.io/blog/blocks-give-your-editors-the-power-... https://tinacms.org/docs/fields/blocks https://tinacms.org/docs/fields/blocks

petra 7y ago

>> The sweet spot worth billions would be WordPress type.CMS that auto deploys static content that's hardypress, or strattic I'm using hardypress, no auto deploys, but for content editors, it's a easy button press on the top of the admin area. >> while keeping dynamic features as needed. is this list complete enough? https://www.strattic.com/static-tools/ https://www.strattic.com/static-tools/ sidenote: this would be extremely valuable, but as a business, it's very easy to copy. No secret sauce, no network effects, no customer lock-in.