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TBH, I took one look at the marketroid speak on the landing page and said "Hell no." But then I skimmed the HN discussion and found the following links: https

TBH, I took one look at the marketroid speak on the landing page and said "Hell no." But then I skimmed the HN discussion and found the following links: https://triosdevelopers.com/jason.eckert/blog/Entries/2019/3/4_Pop!_OS__The_first_real_Linux_desktop.html https://triosdevelopers.com/jason.eckert/blog/Entries/2019/3... https://pop.system76.com/docs/difference-between-pop-ubuntu/ https://pop.system76.com/docs/difference-between-pop-ubuntu/ Now I'm intrigued, and will try installing it on my laptop today.

johnisgood 7y ago
> The feedback from power users has been amazing - I’ll agree with the popular slogan for Pop!_OS as “the best OS for developers” wholeheartedly. I can install it and start working. No need to install Nvidia drivers, worry about LUKS disk encryption or customizing my desktop at all. It’s perfect, and I am faster than on Pop!_OS for general productivity than on Windows (and a LOT faster than on macOS). Oh come on. I will never understand this. For your desktop, surely you can afford to spend an hour configuring your system that should work for over a decade. I lost it at installing NVIDIA drivers, is it that difficult or time-consuming or what the heck? :D As far as full disk encryption goes, I would rather do it manually using Arch's wiki than trust someone else with it, especially because there are MANY ways to do it, and they probably had no plausible deniability in mind, which is a nope for anyone who is serious about it. There are lots of different layouts, parameters, and so on. But OK, for people who cannot install NVIDIA drivers or are not willing to spend a minute doing that, then yeah, sure, why not...
- kstenerud 7y ago
  Why would I spend an hour configuring a machine when I don't have to? I don't spend an hour fiddling with a car before it's usable for me. Why should a computer be different? Why would I want plausible deniability with my encryption? I'm a developer, not a cia agent. I need to keep my company's code safe from random strangers, not governments.
  - johnisgood 7y ago
    How about this phrase: "one size does not fit all"? Do you use the default configurations for all of your software as well? If not, why not, and how does the reasoning not apply to the rest of the computer?
    - kstenerud 7y ago
      I do what most people do: Look for something that covers as many of my use cases as possible. The less customization I have to do, the better. What I'm hoping is that this OS lives up to its promise to cater to the 80% first, which will likely mean that I need to do little-to-no customization, which means less things to maintain myself, which means more time to do actually valuable things. That's what I used to like about MacOS in the days of Mountain Lion.

johnisgood 7y ago

> The feedback from power users has been amazing - I’ll agree with the popular slogan for Pop!_OS as “the best OS for developers” wholeheartedly. I can install it and start working. No need to install Nvidia drivers, worry about LUKS disk encryption or customizing my desktop at all. It’s perfect, and I am faster than on Pop!_OS for general productivity than on Windows (and a LOT faster than on macOS). Oh come on. I will never understand this. For your desktop, surely you can afford to spend an hour configuring your system that should work for over a decade. I lost it at installing NVIDIA drivers, is it that difficult or time-consuming or what the heck? :D As far as full disk encryption goes, I would rather do it manually using Arch's wiki than trust someone else with it, especially because there are MANY ways to do it, and they probably had no plausible deniability in mind, which is a nope for anyone who is serious about it. There are lots of different layouts, parameters, and so on. But OK, for people who cannot install NVIDIA drivers or are not willing to spend a minute doing that, then yeah, sure, why not...

kstenerud 7y ago
Why would I spend an hour configuring a machine when I don't have to? I don't spend an hour fiddling with a car before it's usable for me. Why should a computer be different? Why would I want plausible deniability with my encryption? I'm a developer, not a cia agent. I need to keep my company's code safe from random strangers, not governments.
- johnisgood 7y ago
  How about this phrase: "one size does not fit all"? Do you use the default configurations for all of your software as well? If not, why not, and how does the reasoning not apply to the rest of the computer?
  - kstenerud 7y ago
    I do what most people do: Look for something that covers as many of my use cases as possible. The less customization I have to do, the better. What I'm hoping is that this OS lives up to its promise to cater to the 80% first, which will likely mean that I need to do little-to-no customization, which means less things to maintain myself, which means more time to do actually valuable things. That's what I used to like about MacOS in the days of Mountain Lion.