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Slightly OT however for what it’s worth the new 16inch MBP with a redesigned non-butterfly keyboard is supposed to be available soon. I would suggest you hold

Slightly OT however for what it’s worth the new 16inch MBP with a redesigned non-butterfly keyboard is supposed to be available soon. I would suggest you hold off any laptop decision until then.

inopinatus 7y ago
The first hurdle for me is still whether it has an Escape key.
- zerotolerance 7y ago
  Get yourself a clutch :) https://github.com/alevchuk/vim-clutch https://github.com/alevchuk/vim-clutch
- jkelleyrtp 7y ago
  You can rebind your capslock key to escape. I'm so addicted that I rebind it on every keyboard I use now. It's a much better location than normal escape and works everywhere throughout the OS.
  - inopinatus 7y ago
    Tried it. Not a fan.
gherkinnn 7y ago
Waiting for that announcement myself. Plus a few months to see just how reliable they are.
frogperson 7y ago
the rumors suggest that it will initially ship with the old keyboard, to get upgraded sometime in 2020.
dillonmckay 7y ago
Meh. Are you really confident this first new batch will be ok?
awalton 7y ago
Err, have you ever bought a first-gen Apple product? Not something you walk into lightly... Apple has a tendency to let customers find their flaws rather than actually test for them and shake them out. I'd rather not volunteer $3000 to be a guinea pig for Apple's keyboard design gremlins. If they went back to the 2016 model and just slapped a new motherboard inside and made the battery larger, then yeah, it'd be a no brainer. But I can't imagine them being that smart about it given the past few years of evidence to the contrary.
- house9-2 7y ago
  > Err, have you ever bought a first-gen Apple product? I have 1st gen iMac retina, I have had zero issues and have been using it daily since I bought it new in 2014. I did get SSD and upgraded cpu and graphics card; I believe the base models under performed so I can imagine people were not so happy with those models? Only regret, it cannot be used as an external monitor. > I'd rather not volunteer $3000 to be a guinea pig for Apple's keyboard design gremlins. yeah, I would probably wait as well; unless work was paying for it
  - redler 7y ago
    > Only regret, it cannot be used as an external monitor. You should check out Luna Display. In the wake of being "Sherlocked" by Apple's new iPad Sidecar feature, they've added support for using Macs as external displays. https://lunadisplay.com/pages/meet-mac-to-mac-mode https://lunadisplay.com/pages/meet-mac-to-mac-mode
pier25 7y ago
It's generally not a good idea to buy a 1st gen Apple product. IMO it would be better to wait at least to a 2nd gen of the redesigned MBPs.

Slightly OT however for what it’s worth the new 16inch MBP with a redesigned non-butterfly keyboard is supposed to be available soon. I would suggest you hold off any laptop decision until then.

inopinatus 7y ago

The first hurdle for me is still whether it has an Escape key.

zerotolerance 7y ago
Get yourself a clutch :) https://github.com/alevchuk/vim-clutch https://github.com/alevchuk/vim-clutch
jkelleyrtp 7y ago
You can rebind your capslock key to escape. I'm so addicted that I rebind it on every keyboard I use now. It's a much better location than normal escape and works everywhere throughout the OS.
- inopinatus 7y ago
  Tried it. Not a fan.

gherkinnn 7y ago

Waiting for that announcement myself. Plus a few months to see just how reliable they are.

frogperson 7y ago

the rumors suggest that it will initially ship with the old keyboard, to get upgraded sometime in 2020.

dillonmckay 7y ago

Meh. Are you really confident this first new batch will be ok?

awalton 7y ago

Err, have you ever bought a first-gen Apple product? Not something you walk into lightly... Apple has a tendency to let customers find their flaws rather than actually test for them and shake them out. I'd rather not volunteer $3000 to be a guinea pig for Apple's keyboard design gremlins. If they went back to the 2016 model and just slapped a new motherboard inside and made the battery larger, then yeah, it'd be a no brainer. But I can't imagine them being that smart about it given the past few years of evidence to the contrary.

house9-2 7y ago
> Err, have you ever bought a first-gen Apple product? I have 1st gen iMac retina, I have had zero issues and have been using it daily since I bought it new in 2014. I did get SSD and upgraded cpu and graphics card; I believe the base models under performed so I can imagine people were not so happy with those models? Only regret, it cannot be used as an external monitor. > I'd rather not volunteer $3000 to be a guinea pig for Apple's keyboard design gremlins. yeah, I would probably wait as well; unless work was paying for it
- redler 7y ago
  > Only regret, it cannot be used as an external monitor. You should check out Luna Display. In the wake of being "Sherlocked" by Apple's new iPad Sidecar feature, they've added support for using Macs as external displays. https://lunadisplay.com/pages/meet-mac-to-mac-mode https://lunadisplay.com/pages/meet-mac-to-mac-mode

pier25 7y ago

It's generally not a good idea to buy a 1st gen Apple product. IMO it would be better to wait at least to a 2nd gen of the redesigned MBPs.