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This is an important issue. I record all my guests in my home. But using my own system. I don't upload it anywhere insecurely or share it with any outsiders be

This is an important issue. I record all my guests in my home. But using my own system. I don't upload it anywhere insecurely or share it with any outsiders because that would be crazy. Smart folks understand about these various platforms and know to not discuss sensitive issues anywhere within a quarter mile of technology, or with anyone carrying a phone or other device. It's just common sense.

jacquesm 7y ago
You may want to check the law, there is a good chance that you are in violation of it, many places are 'two party consent'.
- droithomme 7y ago
  No I am not. My system, in my own private home, is entirely legal.
  - cgriswald 7y ago
    No laws I’m aware of in the US carve out any exceptions for private homes. Even if you’re in a one-party consent state, if you leave the room and no one else in the room has consented you could be looking at a felony.
    - droithomme 7y ago
      It's just as I said. Based on your claim, baby monitors are illegal. Maybe a class action suit against baby monitor companies is a good idea!
      - cgriswald 7y ago
        So far your only defenses seem to be that it’s in your home, which isn’t a valid defense ; and “I said so.” Baby monitors don’t record and have indicators that they are active. And it’s still possible to use them in such a way that you run foul of the law.
        dragonwriter 7y ago
        > Baby monitors don’t record and have indicators that they are active. Many of them do record nowadays, incidentally to providing internet accessibility.
        cgriswald 7y ago
        I can't find a single device marketed as a baby monitor that records audio. Even if there were such a device, wouldn't that just bring us back to the point of the article? The existence of such a device wouldn't make the device suddenly legal to use without getting consent from the people being recorded.
        droithomme 7y ago
        You're in here in post after post accusing me of being a criminal committing serious crimes. I'm telling you I've committed no crime. You say I have. You then say I have no proof I am not a criminal. That's not how it works in this country. I'm presumed innocent. You want to prove I am a criminal, bring it on Griswald. Bring it on. Call the FBI. Call the state officials. Try to get me arrested for the crimes you insist I have committed. Make a big public case of it, as public as possible. Since slander and libel are also problematic aren't they.
        cgriswald 7y ago
        > You're in here in post after post accusing me of being a criminal committing serious crimes. I made two posts suggesting you might be in violation of the law for your own consideration. I made a third post to someone else about a tangent. > I'm telling you I've committed no crime. Yes. > You say I have. Nope. I said you might be in violation and I gave reasons. Your responses since then have actually lead me to believe you have no idea whether your system is legal. If you did, I think you'd be able to articulate why your system is legal. I don't have anything at stake here. If you're in violation, you're the one risking felony charges, not me. If you think it's legal, great. If you don't think it's legal, then get in compliance or don't. > That's not how it works in this country. I'm presumed innocent. You want to prove I am a criminal, bring it on Griswald. Bring it on. Call the FBI. Call the state officials. Try to get me arrested for the crimes you insist I have committed. Make a big public case of it, as public as possible. Since slander and libel are also problematic aren't they. I don't know how to help you. This response makes no sense at all.
angry_octet 7y ago
I think that is an incredibly bad idea, but do you remind them they are being recorded? Have prominent signs to that effect? Are there cameras in the bedrooms?

jacquesm 7y ago

You may want to check the law, there is a good chance that you are in violation of it, many places are 'two party consent'.

droithomme 7y ago
No I am not. My system, in my own private home, is entirely legal.
- cgriswald 7y ago
  No laws I’m aware of in the US carve out any exceptions for private homes. Even if you’re in a one-party consent state, if you leave the room and no one else in the room has consented you could be looking at a felony.
  - droithomme 7y ago
    It's just as I said. Based on your claim, baby monitors are illegal. Maybe a class action suit against baby monitor companies is a good idea!
    - cgriswald 7y ago
      So far your only defenses seem to be that it’s in your home, which isn’t a valid defense ; and “I said so.” Baby monitors don’t record and have indicators that they are active. And it’s still possible to use them in such a way that you run foul of the law.
      - dragonwriter 7y ago
        > Baby monitors don’t record and have indicators that they are active. Many of them do record nowadays, incidentally to providing internet accessibility.
        cgriswald 7y ago
        I can't find a single device marketed as a baby monitor that records audio. Even if there were such a device, wouldn't that just bring us back to the point of the article? The existence of such a device wouldn't make the device suddenly legal to use without getting consent from the people being recorded.
      - droithomme 7y ago
        You're in here in post after post accusing me of being a criminal committing serious crimes. I'm telling you I've committed no crime. You say I have. You then say I have no proof I am not a criminal. That's not how it works in this country. I'm presumed innocent. You want to prove I am a criminal, bring it on Griswald. Bring it on. Call the FBI. Call the state officials. Try to get me arrested for the crimes you insist I have committed. Make a big public case of it, as public as possible. Since slander and libel are also problematic aren't they.
        cgriswald 7y ago
        > You're in here in post after post accusing me of being a criminal committing serious crimes. I made two posts suggesting you might be in violation of the law for your own consideration. I made a third post to someone else about a tangent. > I'm telling you I've committed no crime. Yes. > You say I have. Nope. I said you might be in violation and I gave reasons. Your responses since then have actually lead me to believe you have no idea whether your system is legal. If you did, I think you'd be able to articulate why your system is legal. I don't have anything at stake here. If you're in violation, you're the one risking felony charges, not me. If you think it's legal, great. If you don't think it's legal, then get in compliance or don't. > That's not how it works in this country. I'm presumed innocent. You want to prove I am a criminal, bring it on Griswald. Bring it on. Call the FBI. Call the state officials. Try to get me arrested for the crimes you insist I have committed. Make a big public case of it, as public as possible. Since slander and libel are also problematic aren't they. I don't know how to help you. This response makes no sense at all.

angry_octet 7y ago

I think that is an incredibly bad idea, but do you remind them they are being recorded? Have prominent signs to that effect? Are there cameras in the bedrooms?