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Reminder: Kevin Hart is suing the builder of his Hellcat 700HP Plymouth Barracuda.

Skunkleton 7y ago
Not to be rude, but you would have to be real thick to not understand how unsafe that car would be. I know it's a harsh thing to say, especially because Kevin Hart was seriously injured. Still, when you take risks, sometimes it doesn't work out.
- Gibbon1 7y ago
  One of my college professors said there are things that are intrinsically unsafe. Where layered defenses don't buy you much. A fuckup means a high risk of being injured.
- emmelaich 7y ago
  Sadly yes. There's a reason that e.g. Shelby Cobras are so rare. Very easy to spin out a short wheelbase car with a V8. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Cobra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Cobra
olivermarks 7y ago
It is a disgrace that Hart is suing the car builder.He had someone build a high performance show car and then allowed a friend to crash it. He is now wrecking everyone's right to modify and build cars because of his own stupidity.
rasz 7y ago
>The driver, Jared Black, lost control of Hart's 1970 Plymouth 'Cuda while driving with Hart and Black's fiancé, Rebecca Broxterman, in the back seat. The car plowed through a wooden fence and careened down an embankment, where it came to rest in a heap. Reminder: dont let your cool friends drive your race car. This is how Paul Walker died.
- tashoecraft 7y ago
  Paul’s friend was driving his own car, I forget where I heard an in depth about it but supposedly the tires on those cars went bad fast, and it was one of the first items they were driving it. Irresponsible, but in those conditions that car had essentially no grip, combined with a car that was legendarily known for being very difficult to drive on atleast 8+ year tires was a recipe for disaster
  - WalterBright 7y ago
    The more grip the tires have, the shorter their life.
    - RcouF1uZ4gsC 7y ago
      The less grip your tires have, the shorter your life.
    - TylerE 7y ago
      My understanding is that it wasn't a treadwear issue, but more like dryrot..the car had been stored for a long time.
      - WalterBright 7y ago
        I'm not sure how long tires last in storage, but if they're X years old they can look and feel perfectly new, but not be safe anymore.
        tashoecraft 7y ago
        That was the issue, the car had very little miles, but were stock tires
        protomyth 7y ago
        Basically, replace tires if they are 5 years old on cars like that. Age is a big problem.
readhn 7y ago
I am a mature and experienced driver and I drove FWD and AWD cars all of my life. On several occasions i stopped myself from buying a powerful RWD sports car .... just because of all the cases where (even experienced) drivers spin out and crash while taking "high speed" turns in poor traction conditions. I know that ill most likely push my car and not being able to control it - freaks me out! I cant even imagine giving someone else to drive a 700HP monster (with me not being in full control)!!! The next car this (and other) shops build (if they survive the law suit) will come with a stack of "release of liability" documents for the buyer to sign. I 1000% guarantee that. Its stupid on their part that they sold the car to him without release from any potential liability if he crashes the car or injures himself and others, like in this case.
- WalterBright 7y ago
  In a high performance car, even lifting the throttle in a turn can put it into a spin.
  - perl4ever 7y ago
    Wait until you hear about motorcycles... https://youtu.be/3sniigpXfAY?t=140 https://youtu.be/3sniigpXfAY?t=140
    - Enginerrrd 7y ago
      That guy was just being stubborn. He had long since dumped the bike low side and tried to correct by locking the handlebars all the way left.
      - teh_klev 7y ago
        The rider wasn't being "stubborn". It's a right hand turn and "locking the handlebars all the way to the left" wasn't trying to correct the "dumping" of the bike. Locking the handlebars all the way left would hopefully have ensured the bike went down, stayed down and not sat back up again thus causing the "tank slapper". When you ride a bike, especially a motorbike you counter intuitively "steer left" to turn right, and vice versa. Former sports bike rider here...until I bit the big green banana.
WalterBright 7y ago
The machinist who built my engine told me the only reason he was doing it was because I was over 40.
- alasdair_ 7y ago
  I assume “money” was also a reason?
  - WalterBright 7y ago
    No. Though he knew I could pay for it because the parts I brought in were expensive ones, and of course he wouldn't give me the result if I didn't pay.
- stjohnswarts 7y ago
  I assure you there there are good machinists out there who will gladly take an 18 year old's money, so he isn't really helping anyone except getting some virtue signaling out of it.
  - WalterBright 7y ago
    I'm sure there are. My machinist did a good job, the engine is a bad mofo sleeper and just what I wanted :-)
stjohnswarts 7y ago
Lol really? Guess what Kevin, building a fast car and not learning how to drive a fast car has consequences. I have a a 650 HP mustang, one of the first things I did was take classes on how to handle high horsepower vehicles. What an idiot.

Not to be rude, but you would have to be real thick to not understand how unsafe that car would be. I know it's a harsh thing to say, especially because Kevin Hart was seriously injured. Still, when you take risks, sometimes it doesn't work out.

Gibbon1 7y ago
One of my college professors said there are things that are intrinsically unsafe. Where layered defenses don't buy you much. A fuckup means a high risk of being injured.
emmelaich 7y ago
Sadly yes. There's a reason that e.g. Shelby Cobras are so rare. Very easy to spin out a short wheelbase car with a V8. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Cobra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_Cobra

olivermarks 7y ago

It is a disgrace that Hart is suing the car builder.He had someone build a high performance show car and then allowed a friend to crash it. He is now wrecking everyone's right to modify and build cars because of his own stupidity.

rasz 7y ago

>The driver, Jared Black, lost control of Hart's 1970 Plymouth 'Cuda while driving with Hart and Black's fiancé, Rebecca Broxterman, in the back seat. The car plowed through a wooden fence and careened down an embankment, where it came to rest in a heap. Reminder: dont let your cool friends drive your race car. This is how Paul Walker died.

tashoecraft 7y ago
Paul’s friend was driving his own car, I forget where I heard an in depth about it but supposedly the tires on those cars went bad fast, and it was one of the first items they were driving it. Irresponsible, but in those conditions that car had essentially no grip, combined with a car that was legendarily known for being very difficult to drive on atleast 8+ year tires was a recipe for disaster
- WalterBright 7y ago
  The more grip the tires have, the shorter their life.
  - RcouF1uZ4gsC 7y ago
    The less grip your tires have, the shorter your life.
  - TylerE 7y ago
    My understanding is that it wasn't a treadwear issue, but more like dryrot..the car had been stored for a long time.
    - WalterBright 7y ago
      I'm not sure how long tires last in storage, but if they're X years old they can look and feel perfectly new, but not be safe anymore.
      - tashoecraft 7y ago
        That was the issue, the car had very little miles, but were stock tires
        protomyth 7y ago
        Basically, replace tires if they are 5 years old on cars like that. Age is a big problem.

readhn 7y ago

I am a mature and experienced driver and I drove FWD and AWD cars all of my life. On several occasions i stopped myself from buying a powerful RWD sports car .... just because of all the cases where (even experienced) drivers spin out and crash while taking "high speed" turns in poor traction conditions. I know that ill most likely push my car and not being able to control it - freaks me out! I cant even imagine giving someone else to drive a 700HP monster (with me not being in full control)!!! The next car this (and other) shops build (if they survive the law suit) will come with a stack of "release of liability" documents for the buyer to sign. I 1000% guarantee that. Its stupid on their part that they sold the car to him without release from any potential liability if he crashes the car or injures himself and others, like in this case.

WalterBright 7y ago
In a high performance car, even lifting the throttle in a turn can put it into a spin.
- perl4ever 7y ago
  Wait until you hear about motorcycles... https://youtu.be/3sniigpXfAY?t=140 https://youtu.be/3sniigpXfAY?t=140
  - Enginerrrd 7y ago
    That guy was just being stubborn. He had long since dumped the bike low side and tried to correct by locking the handlebars all the way left.
    - teh_klev 7y ago
      The rider wasn't being "stubborn". It's a right hand turn and "locking the handlebars all the way to the left" wasn't trying to correct the "dumping" of the bike. Locking the handlebars all the way left would hopefully have ensured the bike went down, stayed down and not sat back up again thus causing the "tank slapper". When you ride a bike, especially a motorbike you counter intuitively "steer left" to turn right, and vice versa. Former sports bike rider here...until I bit the big green banana.

WalterBright 7y ago

The machinist who built my engine told me the only reason he was doing it was because I was over 40.

alasdair_ 7y ago
I assume “money” was also a reason?
- WalterBright 7y ago
  No. Though he knew I could pay for it because the parts I brought in were expensive ones, and of course he wouldn't give me the result if I didn't pay.
stjohnswarts 7y ago
I assure you there there are good machinists out there who will gladly take an 18 year old's money, so he isn't really helping anyone except getting some virtue signaling out of it.
- WalterBright 7y ago
  I'm sure there are. My machinist did a good job, the engine is a bad mofo sleeper and just what I wanted :-)

stjohnswarts 7y ago

Lol really? Guess what Kevin, building a fast car and not learning how to drive a fast car has consequences. I have a a 650 HP mustang, one of the first things I did was take classes on how to handle high horsepower vehicles. What an idiot.