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I've been trying to move back abroad since I returned to the USA. It's not as easy as people think in the best of times to immigrate, let alone when you are in

I've been trying to move back abroad since I returned to the USA. It's not as easy as people think in the best of times to immigrate, let alone when you are in such bad shape all around. No place takes broken and relatively broke people. Believe me I'd have been gone years ago if I could have managed it. I've thought about extreme ideas like asylum but my research shows it's never granted to people from such countries as mine and for such reasons. The system is taxed enough with war refugees and people even worse off. I'd happily trade passports with anyone who thinks this is the place to be. There is just not a clear path to a sustainable life anywhere now.

keiferski 7y ago
Have you looked into working remotely and then moving somewhere like Argentina? They are very open to immigration and you can apply for citizenship after two years.
- hestipod 7y ago
  I have. In fact the once in a lifetime offer I got from a member here, the only real help in all these years, was to work remotely and live in Europe. My only real friends are there and my previous doctors there were wonderful so that is the goal. But a (as usual) complicated health issue made doing that job and that time impossible for me and I hate every day that it might have been the last hope. My health keeps blocking things. I don't even know what I could do to earn at this point that I would be sure of being able to sustain. I cannot depend on my body for consistency unless that consistency is pain and weakness at varying levels and that's incompatible with your ability to live being linked with your ability to use said body consistently to work in trade for cash. Every time I invest in an idea with energy and money something else happens to crush it. I'd need years of physical, financial, and mental stability to even begin to recover some life and simply cannot start entirely over with no help like one can when they are young and healthy. I have no bootstraps in any sense of the word to pull on.
  - metadata 7y ago
    I may be able to offer you a similar solution (remote job so you can live in Europe) as I have a UK company and my whole team is remote. You write beautifully and thoughtfully, which is what I need. Please shoot me an email to dbulic at my username dot eu - let's see if we can work together.
yardie 7y ago
In my travels getting a long term residency visa requires a medical exam. I’m not sure how people think immigration in other countries work but it’s not as simple as showing up at the airport.
- FDSGSG 7y ago
  If you're moving because you're probably going to die if you don't, does it really matter whether or not you're doing so legally or not? It's really easy to remain in EU forever as an illegal immigrant, in some places your immigration status will have no effect on your access to free healthcare.
  - yardie 7y ago
    I've met many illegal aliens in the EU. It's not an easy life. Yes, you could move to one of the EU countries, clandestine. You would give up up a lot to do so. Access to work would be "on the black." Access to housing would be restricted to sublets with multiple roommates, who are also in the same illegal immigrants. A good friend of mine, without papers, was living 10+ people in a 2 bedroom flat. Everything he owned had to fit in a dufflebag. Not everyone from developed countries is willing to make that sacrifice for the potential access to better healthcare. If you came from a poor country, though, it's a big step up.
    - FDSGSG 7y ago
      > Access to housing would be restricted to sublets with multiple roommates, who are also in the same illegal immigrants. Nobody has ever checked my immigration status while renting in the EU, nobody has ever cared about the fact that I work for an US company owned by me that pays my salary to my US account. Sure, maybe you'll have a bad time renting in France. Don't go live in France unless you want to have a hard time while renting. > A good friend of mine, without papers, was living 10+ people in a 2 bedroom flat A good friend of mine, is here illegally and lives in a nice central 2 bedroom flat in Barcelona all by himself. He had zero trouble finding an apartment, the landlords just don't give a shit. Many illegal immigrants are completely broke, but that's by no means a requirement.
logicbombr 7y ago
If you are a software engineer just came to brazil and you will live as a king here. There more than 400,000 jobs opening related to computer science. And I’m sure you will have access to universal health system and private ones.
- hestipod 7y ago
  I am not a sw engineer and cannot work consistently or enough to earn like a normal person. That's the entire problem. My health was ruined and my finances decimated. Since without social aid your health is required to work and buy a life that puts me in an unsurvivable situation.

keiferski 7y ago

Have you looked into working remotely and then moving somewhere like Argentina? They are very open to immigration and you can apply for citizenship after two years.

hestipod 7y ago
I have. In fact the once in a lifetime offer I got from a member here, the only real help in all these years, was to work remotely and live in Europe. My only real friends are there and my previous doctors there were wonderful so that is the goal. But a (as usual) complicated health issue made doing that job and that time impossible for me and I hate every day that it might have been the last hope. My health keeps blocking things. I don't even know what I could do to earn at this point that I would be sure of being able to sustain. I cannot depend on my body for consistency unless that consistency is pain and weakness at varying levels and that's incompatible with your ability to live being linked with your ability to use said body consistently to work in trade for cash. Every time I invest in an idea with energy and money something else happens to crush it. I'd need years of physical, financial, and mental stability to even begin to recover some life and simply cannot start entirely over with no help like one can when they are young and healthy. I have no bootstraps in any sense of the word to pull on.
- metadata 7y ago
  I may be able to offer you a similar solution (remote job so you can live in Europe) as I have a UK company and my whole team is remote. You write beautifully and thoughtfully, which is what I need. Please shoot me an email to dbulic at my username dot eu - let's see if we can work together.

yardie 7y ago

In my travels getting a long term residency visa requires a medical exam. I’m not sure how people think immigration in other countries work but it’s not as simple as showing up at the airport.

FDSGSG 7y ago
If you're moving because you're probably going to die if you don't, does it really matter whether or not you're doing so legally or not? It's really easy to remain in EU forever as an illegal immigrant, in some places your immigration status will have no effect on your access to free healthcare.
- yardie 7y ago
  I've met many illegal aliens in the EU. It's not an easy life. Yes, you could move to one of the EU countries, clandestine. You would give up up a lot to do so. Access to work would be "on the black." Access to housing would be restricted to sublets with multiple roommates, who are also in the same illegal immigrants. A good friend of mine, without papers, was living 10+ people in a 2 bedroom flat. Everything he owned had to fit in a dufflebag. Not everyone from developed countries is willing to make that sacrifice for the potential access to better healthcare. If you came from a poor country, though, it's a big step up.
  - FDSGSG 7y ago
    > Access to housing would be restricted to sublets with multiple roommates, who are also in the same illegal immigrants. Nobody has ever checked my immigration status while renting in the EU, nobody has ever cared about the fact that I work for an US company owned by me that pays my salary to my US account. Sure, maybe you'll have a bad time renting in France. Don't go live in France unless you want to have a hard time while renting. > A good friend of mine, without papers, was living 10+ people in a 2 bedroom flat A good friend of mine, is here illegally and lives in a nice central 2 bedroom flat in Barcelona all by himself. He had zero trouble finding an apartment, the landlords just don't give a shit. Many illegal immigrants are completely broke, but that's by no means a requirement.

logicbombr 7y ago

If you are a software engineer just came to brazil and you will live as a king here. There more than 400,000 jobs opening related to computer science. And I’m sure you will have access to universal health system and private ones.

hestipod 7y ago
I am not a sw engineer and cannot work consistently or enough to earn like a normal person. That's the entire problem. My health was ruined and my finances decimated. Since without social aid your health is required to work and buy a life that puts me in an unsurvivable situation.