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Only one layer of synthetic liner, I think that says enough. All it takes is a single tear that could have even happened with installation, or maybe the sand la

Only one layer of synthetic liner, I think that says enough. All it takes is a single tear that could have even happened with installation, or maybe the sand layers aren't as thick as what's recommended and as garbage is put on top it digs into the sand and rips the synthetic layer. How much extensive real world testing has been done with this synthetic layers? Is it meant to sit for decades bathing in a chemical soup? Or it is assumed that it'd only get wet? My guess is that they didn't use real world tests where people are throwing out chemicals that shouldn't be put in the garbage.

freeone3000 7y ago
If the chemicals can dissolve plastic, the plastic wouldn't be a problem.
- hanniabu 7y ago
  Synthetic layer could mean rubber, not just plastic. Also the chemical just needs to break down/ deteriorate the layer, not decompose it.
mattmaroon 7y ago
Quite a bit of testing is done. Mandatory groundwater tests are done near every single one. Your guess, that it wouldn't occur to scientists that people throw away stuff that they should not, is silly.
- hanniabu 7y ago
  I've been conditioned to think that the waste management industry would have tests done by either paid or incompetent people in order to get a rubber stamp of approval. Cynical? Yes, but in this day and age with what we see corporations do I think it's best to be skeptical.
EpicEng 7y ago
It continually amazes me that people like you think they have found a legitimate problem after 30 seconds of thought which the experts never imagined. I imagine at least one follow up which includes a reference to 'appeal to authority' yada yada yada will appear.
- mattmaroon 7y ago
  Especially one so obvious.
- Teever 7y ago
  The lead issue in the water infrastructure in Flint Michigan tells me everything I need to know about the safety of these systems. A human can design a perfect system and then someone else can come along and whether due to malfeasance or greed fuck that perfect system up. No system is perfect for that very reason. The solution is to generate less waste. Reduce, Reuse, Recycle -- in that order. There won't be a problem if there isn't a problem to take care of.
  - EpicEng 7y ago
    >The solution is to generate less waste. Reduce, Reuse, Recycle -- in that order. >There won't be a problem if there isn't a problem to take care of. Sure, and in fantasy land I'm sure there's just a switch you can flip to make that happen. Back in reality where you can't just eliminate all these sources of waste in a day, don't you think it's worth looking for practical solutions that we can implement in the short term? Besides, the only thing I responded to was an internet know-it-all supposing that scientists and engineers hadn't considered a tear or the fact that people may throw away things they're not suppose to.
- hanniabu 7y ago
  As I've said in another comment, it's not that I think nobody would have thought of it, but that it's an intentional overlook. I've been conditioned to think that the waste management industry would have tests done by either paid or incompetent people in order to get a rubber stamp of approval. Cynical? Yes, but in this day and age with what we see corporations do I think it's best to be skeptical.

freeone3000 7y ago

If the chemicals can dissolve plastic, the plastic wouldn't be a problem.

hanniabu 7y ago
Synthetic layer could mean rubber, not just plastic. Also the chemical just needs to break down/ deteriorate the layer, not decompose it.

mattmaroon 7y ago

Quite a bit of testing is done. Mandatory groundwater tests are done near every single one. Your guess, that it wouldn't occur to scientists that people throw away stuff that they should not, is silly.

hanniabu 7y ago
I've been conditioned to think that the waste management industry would have tests done by either paid or incompetent people in order to get a rubber stamp of approval. Cynical? Yes, but in this day and age with what we see corporations do I think it's best to be skeptical.

EpicEng 7y ago

It continually amazes me that people like you think they have found a legitimate problem after 30 seconds of thought which the experts never imagined. I imagine at least one follow up which includes a reference to 'appeal to authority' yada yada yada will appear.

mattmaroon 7y ago
Especially one so obvious.
Teever 7y ago
The lead issue in the water infrastructure in Flint Michigan tells me everything I need to know about the safety of these systems. A human can design a perfect system and then someone else can come along and whether due to malfeasance or greed fuck that perfect system up. No system is perfect for that very reason. The solution is to generate less waste. Reduce, Reuse, Recycle -- in that order. There won't be a problem if there isn't a problem to take care of.
- EpicEng 7y ago
  >The solution is to generate less waste. Reduce, Reuse, Recycle -- in that order. >There won't be a problem if there isn't a problem to take care of. Sure, and in fantasy land I'm sure there's just a switch you can flip to make that happen. Back in reality where you can't just eliminate all these sources of waste in a day, don't you think it's worth looking for practical solutions that we can implement in the short term? Besides, the only thing I responded to was an internet know-it-all supposing that scientists and engineers hadn't considered a tear or the fact that people may throw away things they're not suppose to.
hanniabu 7y ago
As I've said in another comment, it's not that I think nobody would have thought of it, but that it's an intentional overlook. I've been conditioned to think that the waste management industry would have tests done by either paid or incompetent people in order to get a rubber stamp of approval. Cynical? Yes, but in this day and age with what we see corporations do I think it's best to be skeptical.