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Germans generally hold their leaders to a higher standard as well as everyone generally respecting norms. Ignoring norms is a defining quality of Americans.

jacquesm 7y ago
Such generalizations do not help, and one need only to look to history to know that this isn't true in the least. Lining up all Germans against all Americans is the kind of silly stuff that leads to confrontation, recognizing that all of these are individuals and that both on the German and on the American side there are plenty of good individuals that do care is a first step towards a solution. You can then decide on a plan to ensure that those make it to the front of the line on both sides of the Atlantic.
mschuster91 7y ago
Oh hell no we don't. There have been no real consequences for the Dieselgate. The infrastructure minister Scheuer is still in office after: - botching an Autobahn toll exposing the state to 500M € liabilities to the private companies that should have implemented it - (together with his predecessors) not giving a flying fuck about broadband internet outside of cities and LTE access being one of the most expensive in Europe - STILL continuing to fuck up the Deutsche Bahn railway Former scandal-ridden army minister Ursula von der Leyen got promoted to EU commission chief despite having utterly failed to clean up the shitshow that is the German Army. Interior Minister Reul (NRW) is still in office despite ordering illegal raids in the Hambach forest, a colossal police fuck-up during the investigation of pedophiles in Lügde, police beating up a Jew in Bonn and a load of other scandals. Interior minister Seehofer (federal) is still in office despite nearly bringing the federal government to collapse multiple times, undermining Merkel's authority and doing everything he could to keep a Nazi-protecting Hans-Georg Maaßen as head of one of the secret service branches. So tell me, where do we Germans keep our leaders to higher standards?
- FabHK 7y ago
  Not to mention Berlin Brandenburg Airport (BER) - construction started in 2006, but it’s still not ready.
  - mschuster91 7y ago
    Oh yeah, but heads did roll for that clusterfuck. And unlike most problems in Germany this one isn't just restricted to the Conservatives, literally everyone had their fair share of contributing to it.

jacquesm 7y ago

Such generalizations do not help, and one need only to look to history to know that this isn't true in the least. Lining up all Germans against all Americans is the kind of silly stuff that leads to confrontation, recognizing that all of these are individuals and that both on the German and on the American side there are plenty of good individuals that do care is a first step towards a solution. You can then decide on a plan to ensure that those make it to the front of the line on both sides of the Atlantic.

mschuster91 7y ago

Oh hell no we don't. There have been no real consequences for the Dieselgate. The infrastructure minister Scheuer is still in office after: - botching an Autobahn toll exposing the state to 500M € liabilities to the private companies that should have implemented it - (together with his predecessors) not giving a flying fuck about broadband internet outside of cities and LTE access being one of the most expensive in Europe - STILL continuing to fuck up the Deutsche Bahn railway Former scandal-ridden army minister Ursula von der Leyen got promoted to EU commission chief despite having utterly failed to clean up the shitshow that is the German Army. Interior Minister Reul (NRW) is still in office despite ordering illegal raids in the Hambach forest, a colossal police fuck-up during the investigation of pedophiles in Lügde, police beating up a Jew in Bonn and a load of other scandals. Interior minister Seehofer (federal) is still in office despite nearly bringing the federal government to collapse multiple times, undermining Merkel's authority and doing everything he could to keep a Nazi-protecting Hans-Georg Maaßen as head of one of the secret service branches. So tell me, where do we Germans keep our leaders to higher standards?

FabHK 7y ago
Not to mention Berlin Brandenburg Airport (BER) - construction started in 2006, but it’s still not ready.
- mschuster91 7y ago
  Oh yeah, but heads did roll for that clusterfuck. And unlike most problems in Germany this one isn't just restricted to the Conservatives, literally everyone had their fair share of contributing to it.