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I don't know why anyone would want a face unlock instead of a simple fingerprint sensor. My phone is unlocked and ready for me before it even leaves my pocket.
by agildehaus 7y ago
I don't know why anyone would want a face unlock instead of a simple fingerprint sensor. My phone is unlocked and ready for me before it even leaves my pocket.
The lack of it is one of the major reasons I'm not upgrading my Pixel 2.
- tytso 7y agoIt's not like fingerprint sensors are all that secure. From Mythbusters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAfAVGES-Yc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAfAVGES-Yc "Remember, according to the manufacturer says this lock has never been broken...." Watch the whole video --- even the photocopy of the fingerprint was sufficient, which was the third (of three) attempted methods.... all of which worked.
- csours 7y agoThat was from the 2006 season. Fingerprint scanners have improved significantly since then. This is of course, not a blanket statement (see Samsung headlines yesterday)
- derrasterpunkt 7y agoWe don’t have to go that far, the chaos computer club circumvented TouchID in 2013. https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2013/ccc-breaks-apple-touchid https://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2013/ccc-breaks-apple-touchid
- scarface74 7y agoThat was still over 5 years ago on the first generation Touch ID. I couldn’t find an easily repeatable hack for the newer version.
- Ididntdothis 7y agoEven in terms of usability I find fingerprint scanners much better. At a minimum I they should offer both options and not just eliminate fingerprint.
- tjoff 7y agoWow, they didn't even include one. That is wild, oh well, no need to consider the pixel 4 then. On such an expensive phone even.
- ajconway 7y agoIt's actually a major feature that comes in very handy if you live in a cold place.
- ceejayoz 7y agoYeah. I ski a lot and face unlock would be very nice to have.
- headsupernova 7y agogoggles
- ceejayoz 7y agoNot always worn, and easily lifted with gloves on.
- Marsymars 7y agoCan you use your phone with gloves? I snowboard a lot, and if I need to use my phone I take a break and go into the lodge - the mitts I need to keep my hands warm don't provide the dexterity to use a phone. Snowboarding is basically the reason I assign unique ringtones to different contacts - typically there aren't many contacts that require an urgent response, so if I hear anything other than those urgent contact notification tones from my jacket, I can ignore and continue riding.
- ceejayoz 7y agoI've got thin inner gloves that have metallic threads in the fingertips so I can use a touchscreen. Enough to protect bare flesh from frigid cold while remaining dexterous. I use a ski tracking app, and communicate with my wife and kids while on the hill (we often go on different runs).
- cco 7y ago
- maerF0x0 7y agomy fingerprint scanner often fails when I'm sweaty at the gym
- bdcravens 7y agoI have cystic fibrosis - it can cause varying o2 sat levels, finger clubbing, and varying levels of salt/dryness in the fingers not typical for most. When I had an iPhone with Touch ID, eventually my prints would stop working, and I'd have to delete and reenroll them every couple of months (not exactly sure why, and CF may have nothing to do with it, but it seems like the most likely culprit) Not that Face ID is perfect. When I go to the doctor, they make us wear masks, and I do breathing treatments a few times a day - all of which breaks Face ID.
- hwbehrens 7y agoNot that it's ideal, but if it's the same type of mask each time, you might consider enrolling your face with the mask on as an alternate appearance (you can record 2, I believe) in FaceID. I assume that the mask covers only a portion of your face; if it's a full-face mask, then obviously this would greatly degrade your device's security by allowing anyone wearing that mask to unlock it. However, I've found that Face ID can do a pretty good job of recognizing you from the nose up.
- bdcravens 7y agoProbably more important would be with my glasses off - none of my Face ID devices can handle that (though they're okay when I'm wearing sunglasses)
- Marsymars 7y agoMine fails post rock climbing, so I registered a different finger in its post-climbing worn-down state.
- on_and_off 7y agoI ordered a pixel 4 , almost only because my pixel 2 is busted, Google will still trade it in while Apple won't trade Android phones unless maybe if I go ask in a store (well, among other reasons but I am already verging off topic) . None of the locking mechanisms I know protect you against all "threat vectors". In particular, in case a shitty partner wants to access your phone while you are asleep, both fingerprint and google face unlock fail. I do like the fingerprint sensor on pixel 2. It could be even better if there was one on the screen for when the phone is on a flat surface, but it does the job well otherwise. Nevertheless, an easy to use secure enough solution should work well enough against the threat most people worry about : somebody stealing their phone / forgetting it somewhere.
- ngngngng 7y agoHow much are you getting for your broken pixel 2 trade in? I have a broken pixel 2 as well. The glass was so fragile and can't be replaced alone which is a huge disappoinment.
- on_and_off 7y agoAround 100$ Which is fine. The value of a perfect condition pixel 2 is around 150 $ IIRC Which is not very high .. BUT you can get a pretty nice first hand phone at this price. So I can understand why its value is way below what I bought it for and tbh I am kind of amazed at the technological marvel that even the shittiest smartphone on earth is. I have marked the phone as "turns on, screen cracked". Which is accurate. The screen is VERY cracked but if you repair it, you have a perfectly working phone. Repairing this screen would indeed cost me 150-200 $ .. So far I have decided that it is not worth it.
- chipperyman573 7y ago>In particular, in case a shitty partner wants to access your phone while you are asleep, both fingerprint and google face unlock fail. I get face unlock (because closed eyes and your muscles will be more relaxed), but why does the fingerprint sensor fail while you're asleep? Does it measure heart rate?
- losvedir 7y agoI'm upgrading to Pixel 4 and excited about face unlock. Supposedly it's incredibly fast, to the point where it's no different from using your fingerprint on a Pixel 2/3 while pulling it from your pocket, except you don't have to do that. Since I live in Chicago and winter is approaching, I think it'll be pretty handy. I'm hoping their radar gesture thing will eventually allow triggering the Google Assistant, and then I can unlock and use most of my phone via voice without taking my gloves off.
- singingboyo 7y agoDoes pixel 4 have squeeze-for-assistant? Quick google doesn't give me a definite answer. I've got that combined with smart lock on the Pixel 3 - it goes a really long way, especially now that I have a smartwatch. (Which admittedly makes the phone assistant a touch redundant, but...) Also - why not just use "Ok/Hey google"?
- tyscorp 7y ago> Does pixel 4 have squeeze-for-assistant Yes. They brand it as "Active Edge" if you want a better google keyword.
- oiasdjfoiasd 7y agolol anyone who owns an iphone with face ID will tell you you are wrong. Don't miss the fingerprint scanner 1 bit.
- m463 7y agoI like my iphone fingerprint unlock. I have not upgraded because of face unlock.
- Angostura 7y agoI don't have a phone with a face sensor, but I use my phone in the kitchen quite a lot, for recipes, timers etc and there have been many times with wet or floury hands, I've fancied FaceID. Similarly when carrying out outdoor activities wearing gloves.