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My comments are not unsubstantive. If you want clarification ask for it. (Shadow)banning accounts will just result in creation of more.

by kd3 7y ago

dang 7y ago
Ok. Please stop posting flamebait to HN. Yes, I know about creating new accounts, but I'd rather persuade you to simply follow the site guidelines. It's not hard to use HN as intended if you want to.
- kd3 7y ago
  Believe me when I say that I do my best to not cause issues. My intention is never to cause flame wars and I'm not here to attack people (personally). At the same time we should be able to honestly speak our minds. How else do you want honest discussion? The problem is that even if you were to objectively speak the truth these days it can easily be called flamebait. Everyone takes offense to everything these days. I'm sure this does not make your job as a moderator easy but I also hate self-censorship.
  - dang 7y ago
    "Honest" isn't sufficient. If you break the site guidelines honestly, that's still breaking the site guidelines. We need you to post thoughtfully and kindly, and avoid posting in the flamewar style. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
    - kd3 7y ago
      Unfortunately all of those things are open to anyone's subjective interpretation. And I'll add again that said subjective interpretation has gone off the rails in recent times.
      - dang 7y ago
        Nearly everything is open to subjective interpretation. As a moderator here, it's my job to interpret the site guidelines. We try to do that as fairly and consistently as we can, but at the end of the day if you keep breaking the guidelines the way we interpret them, we're going to have to ban you. If you read back through https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=dang https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=dang and https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=sctb https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=sctb, I think you'll find a fair degree of consistency—nay, monotony—in what we tell users here.
        kd3 7y ago
        I understand, do what you have to do. But I think that everyone should think about what era we're heading into when "honesty isn't sufficient" anymore on most platforms on the Internet.

My comments are not unsubstantive. If you want clarification ask for it. (Shadow)banning accounts will just result in creation of more.

by kd3 7y ago

My comments are not unsubstantive. If you want clarification ask for it. (Shadow)banning accounts will just result in creation of more.

dang 7y ago

Ok. Please stop posting flamebait to HN. Yes, I know about creating new accounts, but I'd rather persuade you to simply follow the site guidelines. It's not hard to use HN as intended if you want to.

kd3 7y ago
Believe me when I say that I do my best to not cause issues. My intention is never to cause flame wars and I'm not here to attack people (personally). At the same time we should be able to honestly speak our minds. How else do you want honest discussion? The problem is that even if you were to objectively speak the truth these days it can easily be called flamebait. Everyone takes offense to everything these days. I'm sure this does not make your job as a moderator easy but I also hate self-censorship.
- dang 7y ago
  "Honest" isn't sufficient. If you break the site guidelines honestly, that's still breaking the site guidelines. We need you to post thoughtfully and kindly, and avoid posting in the flamewar style. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
  - kd3 7y ago
    Unfortunately all of those things are open to anyone's subjective interpretation. And I'll add again that said subjective interpretation has gone off the rails in recent times.
    - dang 7y ago
      Nearly everything is open to subjective interpretation. As a moderator here, it's my job to interpret the site guidelines. We try to do that as fairly and consistently as we can, but at the end of the day if you keep breaking the guidelines the way we interpret them, we're going to have to ban you. If you read back through https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=dang https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=dang and https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=sctb https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=sctb, I think you'll find a fair degree of consistency—nay, monotony—in what we tell users here.
      - kd3 7y ago
        I understand, do what you have to do. But I think that everyone should think about what era we're heading into when "honesty isn't sufficient" anymore on most platforms on the Internet.