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Wait. Never saw a developer with a Mac? I surely know more developers who own a Mac than any web-facebook-itunes-email guys. Talk to some Rails developers, I w

by oemera 16y ago

Wait. Never saw a developer with a Mac? I surely know more developers who own a Mac than any web-facebook-itunes-email guys. Talk to some Rails developers, I will bet my nuts that none of the experts, ninjas, you name it are developing on a Mac.

ZachPruckowski 16y ago
I said "the average user", not "all Mac users". It's the same thing with PCs - the 90% of people who aren't experts or ninjas or developers are web-itunes-facebook-email people. You may not know many of them, but that's a result of your professional and social circles. Apple doesn't sell millions of computers every quarter to Rails developers, it sells them to 90%-ers. Sure, some developers buy them, but they're not the main market.
- alxp 16y ago
  Don't underestimate the influence of developers and the tech elite jumping on a usable desktop Unix in the early 2000s. The first places I ever saw more than one or two Mac laptops in one room were developer meetups. And you know each of those influence purchasing decisions of their families and friends as a trusted source. If OS X didn't have Unix underneath I would need three hands to count the number of people I would not have told to buy a Mac because I wasn't using one and loving it at the time.
  - ZachPruckowski 16y ago
    Yeah, I'm not saying high-end tech-savvy users never did anything for Apple (I bought my Macs for largely the reasons you describe), but when Apple makes commercials, they're not advertising "the most usable Unix-compatible OS in the world", they're advertising "it makes web and media and lifestyle stuff really easy".
epochwolf 16y ago
> Talk to some Rails developers, I will bet my nuts that none of the experts, ninjas, you name it are developing on a Mac. I use a Mac with OSX to do rails development. I don't want to stroke by own ego here but I'll be having those nuts. :)
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- oemera 16y ago
  Oh typo! Sorry I wanted to say that 99% of rails developer are developing on a Mac and those not just web, facebook, email guys.

by oemera 16y ago

ZachPruckowski 16y ago

I said "the average user", not "all Mac users". It's the same thing with PCs - the 90% of people who aren't experts or ninjas or developers are web-itunes-facebook-email people. You may not know many of them, but that's a result of your professional and social circles. Apple doesn't sell millions of computers every quarter to Rails developers, it sells them to 90%-ers. Sure, some developers buy them, but they're not the main market.

alxp 16y ago
Don't underestimate the influence of developers and the tech elite jumping on a usable desktop Unix in the early 2000s. The first places I ever saw more than one or two Mac laptops in one room were developer meetups. And you know each of those influence purchasing decisions of their families and friends as a trusted source. If OS X didn't have Unix underneath I would need three hands to count the number of people I would not have told to buy a Mac because I wasn't using one and loving it at the time.
- ZachPruckowski 16y ago
  Yeah, I'm not saying high-end tech-savvy users never did anything for Apple (I bought my Macs for largely the reasons you describe), but when Apple makes commercials, they're not advertising "the most usable Unix-compatible OS in the world", they're advertising "it makes web and media and lifestyle stuff really easy".

epochwolf 16y ago

> Talk to some Rails developers, I will bet my nuts that none of the experts, ninjas, you name it are developing on a Mac. I use a Mac with OSX to do rails development. I don't want to stroke by own ego here but I'll be having those nuts. :)

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oemera 16y ago
Oh typo! Sorry I wanted to say that 99% of rails developer are developing on a Mac and those not just web, facebook, email guys.