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"TRUE/LEGAL/non-SCAM" elections are not a referendum about independence, whether you like it or not. They are evidence, evidence that doesn't confirm the very s
by kilburn 7y ago
"TRUE/LEGAL/non-SCAM" elections are not a referendum about independence, whether you like it or not. They are evidence, evidence that doesn't confirm the very strong claim that "less than 50% of people want independence".
According to the latest such election (2019 spanish general elections), we had [1]:
1.626.001 votes for parties clearly supporting independence (ERC + JxCat + Front Republicà)
1.784.129 votes for parties clearly opposing independence (PSOE + Cs + PP)
678.451 votes for parties that claim other issues are more important (UP + PACMA)
The total numbers for/against independence are not clear and could swing either way. We would need either much more skewed results (to extrapolate from them) or an actual vote on the issue to support the claim that was made here.
Note that I haven't made the opposite claim (more than 50% of people want independence). I just said that in the current situation the way to know would be to hold a vote, and that Spain has always opposed this option.
[1] https://www.abc.es/elecciones/elecciones-generales/resultados/cataluna/ https://www.abc.es/elecciones/elecciones-generales/resultado...
- pvaldes 7y agoTherefore the data support perfectly the statement that "In Catalonia less than 50% of people want independence". Nobody stopped they to freely vote other options. But this is a trap, a fake discussion, because the independentist people in Catalonia don't own the place. The spanish constitution grants rights to all citizens in Spain to share the whole territory, use the public spaces and infrastructures in their benefit, enjoy nature and stablish, work and live peacefully in any point of the nation that they would desire and choose, without being bullied by the local sheriff or politician.