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Don’t fly in economy then. Take fewer flights and avoid cramped seats by flying further forward.
by isostatic 7y ago
Don’t fly in economy then. Take fewer flights and avoid cramped seats by flying further forward.
- raverbashing 7y agoNot everyone can afford to not fly in Economy But do keep yourself hydrated and go for a walk around the plane once in a while, it helps.
- isostatic 7y agoEveryone can afford not to fly at all
- kmlx 7y agowut?
- jchw 7y agoYou do realize it's part of some of our jobs, correct?
- isostatic 7y agoIf your job told you to smoke 40 a day would you do it, or would you get another job?
- jchw 7y agoI can also ponder about other useless conundrums, such as if my job were to require me to come up with non-sense analogies that have no basis in reality.
- isostatic 7y agoYour job is forcing you to do bad things for your health. Either say no, or leave. It’s not the airline’s fault.
- jchw 7y agoThe airplanes literally have >10x as many seats for economy. You know, airplane seats don’t get spaced out in ways that are literally hazardous to human life on accident. And as a culture, we decided things that threaten human life enough are worth making illegal even if they infringe on personal freedoms. Lots of people wouldn’t wear seatbelts or helmets without them. IOW: it is absolutely the airline’s fault. And one of them, Spirit to be exact, is pushing the boundaries even further. Is there a limit to how far this will go? Probably not, left on its own. And no, my job doesn’t ask me to smoke 40 packs a day, amazingly, and the two things you listed are not equivalent. It was, at one point in history, not unreasonable to ask employees to fly to other locations on company dime. It is slowly becoming unreasonable because there are no checks preventing this and people literally can’t just stop flying, this isn’t a real solution, the world would collapse with the absence of air travel, we can stop entertaining this thought.
- GordonS 7y agoYep, every UK company I've worked at for 20 years has had a strict "economy only" policy, unless you're at something like VP level. There have been times when I've had to take 3 economy flights in a row to get to a destination, travelling over 24h straight. Travelling long-haul in economy if you're anything near 6 feet tall is absolutely fucking miserable. But not everyone has the luxury of easily getting another job, so what can you do? The only upside is that after doing it long enough you gain status (but it takes a looong time flying economy), then you tend to get free upgrades a lot more often, and you can use your airlines to get a free upgrade on the rare occasions where the moon and stars align and the airline says there is availability.
- flyinglizard 7y agoI have a rule - I don’t fly long haul economy for an employer, ever. Premium Economy is the minimum tolerable, and if it’s more than once a quarter, I only fly business. No exceptions.
- GordonS 7y agoI also agree that Premium Economy is the "minimum tolerable" - it's still not exactly pleasant for long haul, but at least you have enough space to be relatively comfortable. Sleeping is still pretty difficult though. I have the same Premium Economy rule nowadays, but I now have the luxury of being able to do that; earlier in my career, I didn't.
- isostatic 7y agoI’m fine with economy in Europe, YMMV But yes, it’s about how often you fly. Once or twice a year on a midhaul day flight like Uk to east coast or Mid East in a good economy plane (qatar a350 for example) is fine. flying 30 times a year then just say no. It’s not worth the damage to your health.
- me_me_me 7y ago"Being poor. How about stop being poor!"
- dang 7y agoWe detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21287701 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21287701 and marked it off-topic.