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I can think of non-evil reasons to stop secession. If the US South wanted to secede to continue slavery is it evil to prevent that to protect people?

pvaldes 7y ago
I will give you 5 millions of reasons. The lives and patrimony of oppressed non-separatist people living in Cuckoloonia that are exhausted of being harassed day and night by a minority of criminals in power and their army of brainwashed puppets. Last night the separatists burned cars and bikes, really happy to have started finally their exciting new war in the real world. They crave for blood and having marthyrs to show to the word since years ago. They even have a name for it: WARcelona. Daddy's little psycho and mommy's little soldier. Some days ago President Torra asked for rebellion against the same government that he swore loyalty. If is not surrealist enough, later he send the autonomic police against the same children. An adolescent lose an eye. A french tourist suffered a heart attack and died after being forced to walk 4 Km to reach the airport. A father must toke their baby and run away from his home in the middle of the nigth because the idiots were burning tires at the street and the smoke goes to the first floor of the next house. They were about to axfixiate the family living above without ever noticing it, or caring for anything. Do you know what was the answer that they gave to this father?: "take it easy, man"
- nomusuari 7y ago
  The Catalan independence movement is peaceful. Most violence is done by payed spaniards pretending to be catalan separatists. We already know all the spanish dirty tricks.
  - pvaldes 7y ago
    Are you sure? This does not seem peaceful to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYuwTqahNr4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYuwTqahNr4
  - oliverx0 7y ago
    Peaceful? Are you serious? Burned cars, streets on fire, ongoing brawls for the past 4 days. The separatist movement is anything but peaceful, and it is costing everyone in Spain. https://www.elmundo.es/cataluna/2019/10/18/5da97e2821efa079038b45b9.html https://www.elmundo.es/cataluna/2019/10/18/5da97e2821efa0790...
    - nomusuari 7y ago
      Why don't you show the videos of spanish police sent to Catalonia to beat up peaceful catalan protesters? To force a reaction and then accuse them of violence when it really is self defense? We already know all the spanish dirty tricks. It is not different than what China does in Hong Kong. Sending Spanish policemen to Catalonia to beat us... Spain is like Russia or China. It is so bad not even real spanish people want to be spanish.
- hellllllllooo 7y ago
  You ignored my point and responded with a rant. I didn't make a comment on Catalonia. I was responding to the poster before me.

pvaldes 7y ago

I will give you 5 millions of reasons. The lives and patrimony of oppressed non-separatist people living in Cuckoloonia that are exhausted of being harassed day and night by a minority of criminals in power and their army of brainwashed puppets. Last night the separatists burned cars and bikes, really happy to have started finally their exciting new war in the real world. They crave for blood and having marthyrs to show to the word since years ago. They even have a name for it: WARcelona. Daddy's little psycho and mommy's little soldier. Some days ago President Torra asked for rebellion against the same government that he swore loyalty. If is not surrealist enough, later he send the autonomic police against the same children. An adolescent lose an eye. A french tourist suffered a heart attack and died after being forced to walk 4 Km to reach the airport. A father must toke their baby and run away from his home in the middle of the nigth because the idiots were burning tires at the street and the smoke goes to the first floor of the next house. They were about to axfixiate the family living above without ever noticing it, or caring for anything. Do you know what was the answer that they gave to this father?: "take it easy, man"

nomusuari 7y ago
The Catalan independence movement is peaceful. Most violence is done by payed spaniards pretending to be catalan separatists. We already know all the spanish dirty tricks.
- pvaldes 7y ago
  Are you sure? This does not seem peaceful to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYuwTqahNr4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYuwTqahNr4
- oliverx0 7y ago
  Peaceful? Are you serious? Burned cars, streets on fire, ongoing brawls for the past 4 days. The separatist movement is anything but peaceful, and it is costing everyone in Spain. https://www.elmundo.es/cataluna/2019/10/18/5da97e2821efa079038b45b9.html https://www.elmundo.es/cataluna/2019/10/18/5da97e2821efa0790...
  - nomusuari 7y ago
    Why don't you show the videos of spanish police sent to Catalonia to beat up peaceful catalan protesters? To force a reaction and then accuse them of violence when it really is self defense? We already know all the spanish dirty tricks. It is not different than what China does in Hong Kong. Sending Spanish policemen to Catalonia to beat us... Spain is like Russia or China. It is so bad not even real spanish people want to be spanish.
hellllllllooo 7y ago
You ignored my point and responded with a rant. I didn't make a comment on Catalonia. I was responding to the poster before me.