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Sorry, but this is just so irresponsible. I'm sure I'll be corrected, but it almost needlessly resulted in taking a liver away from someone that needed it not a

Sorry, but this is just so irresponsible. I'm sure I'll be corrected, but it almost needlessly resulted in taking a liver away from someone that needed it not as a result of their own stupidity. Oh, and then while in an emergency room on the brink of death questions why the alternative medicine some friend found online was never used.

Alex3917 7y ago
He doesn't explicitly say, but presumably what the doctors successfully treated him with was alternative medicine, just different alternative medicine. (Silbinin isn't FDA approved in the US.)
gatherhunterer 7y ago
The ending almost reads like satire. He was picturing a happy, smiling liver and wonders whether it was that positive visualization or the massive doses of penicillin that did the trick? It’s like something from the Onion.
- Enginerrrd 7y ago
  To be fair, I've watched a lot of people on the brink of death. (I was a paramedic for a time.) You could often tell the ones that would die despite very similar presentation to one's that would live. The difference was the ones that would live had fight in their eyes. You see that too with folks waiting for a loved one to get there before they die. They can push it back for hours or even days if they've got the fight to do it. They even teach that to rescuers in search and rescue: often people that have hung in for days fighting to survive see their rescue and then they relax and start going downhill fast. Long story short, there definitely is something to your mental game in a situation like this. It's a smaller effect than the others, but it's there.
  - justanotherjoe 7y ago
    Do you have anything i can read on the rescue stuff? This all might come in handy for when I'm dying one day.
    - divbyzer0 7y ago
      May not be the same thing, but afterdrop is an issue with rescued drowning victims which can lead to Circum-Rescue Collapse which can lead to cardiac arrest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterdrop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterdrop I'm not sure if there is consensus on this but the adivce I was given for rescue scenarios is to keep the patient tense. Raising voice at them, increasing stress, telling them they are still in danger and need to keep fighting.
  - gatherhunterer 7y ago
    The author is not considering the efficacy of physiological factors. He is endorsing magic, prayer and amateur medical research as realistic alternatives to medicine.
hinkley 7y ago
He doesn't even seem that mollified to have done something stupid. Narcissist?
- Simon_says 7y ago
  Probably just a regular idiot.
  - lovemenot 7y ago
    Yes. But I think it took a lot of humility to write that article, nevertheless. And willingness to acknowledge his own idiocy. The act was foolish, but the self-reflection was brave.

Alex3917 7y ago

He doesn't explicitly say, but presumably what the doctors successfully treated him with was alternative medicine, just different alternative medicine. (Silbinin isn't FDA approved in the US.)

gatherhunterer 7y ago

The ending almost reads like satire. He was picturing a happy, smiling liver and wonders whether it was that positive visualization or the massive doses of penicillin that did the trick? It’s like something from the Onion.

Enginerrrd 7y ago
To be fair, I've watched a lot of people on the brink of death. (I was a paramedic for a time.) You could often tell the ones that would die despite very similar presentation to one's that would live. The difference was the ones that would live had fight in their eyes. You see that too with folks waiting for a loved one to get there before they die. They can push it back for hours or even days if they've got the fight to do it. They even teach that to rescuers in search and rescue: often people that have hung in for days fighting to survive see their rescue and then they relax and start going downhill fast. Long story short, there definitely is something to your mental game in a situation like this. It's a smaller effect than the others, but it's there.
- justanotherjoe 7y ago
  Do you have anything i can read on the rescue stuff? This all might come in handy for when I'm dying one day.
  - divbyzer0 7y ago
    May not be the same thing, but afterdrop is an issue with rescued drowning victims which can lead to Circum-Rescue Collapse which can lead to cardiac arrest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterdrop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterdrop I'm not sure if there is consensus on this but the adivce I was given for rescue scenarios is to keep the patient tense. Raising voice at them, increasing stress, telling them they are still in danger and need to keep fighting.
- gatherhunterer 7y ago
  The author is not considering the efficacy of physiological factors. He is endorsing magic, prayer and amateur medical research as realistic alternatives to medicine.

hinkley 7y ago

He doesn't even seem that mollified to have done something stupid. Narcissist?

Simon_says 7y ago
Probably just a regular idiot.
- lovemenot 7y ago
  Yes. But I think it took a lot of humility to write that article, nevertheless. And willingness to acknowledge his own idiocy. The act was foolish, but the self-reflection was brave.