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> Still uses a FOOD SOURCE to create GAS? Check, double and tripple (sic) check. Since corn and soy-based foods are one of the leading causes of obesity, this

by sudont 16y ago

> Still uses a FOOD SOURCE to create GAS? Check, double and tripple (sic) check. Since corn and soy-based foods are one of the leading causes of obesity, this arguement is moot. Not to mention it actually costs less to buy a bushel of corn than it does to produce it: corn prices are already severely subsidized by the government. There's simply too much corn out there, and it's one of the main reasons why "junk food" is so junky. If ethanol was being produced from romaine lettuce and turnips, I'd be more alarmed. For now, it's just one more little subsidy on top of an already massive agribusiness planned economy. However, ethanol really has no place in fuel. The only benefit to E10 is that you don't need to use Heet in your gas tank in the winter.

potatolicious 16y ago
> "Since corn and soy-based foods are one of the leading causes of obesity" In the US, yes. There are many cultures that have been heavily soy-based, for example, for centuries without health issues. Furthermore, there are even more developing countries on Earth that rely on corn as a staple food. The diversion of corn supplies to create fuel over food is widely regarded as a main cause of the last food price crisis, which impacted poor countries disastrously (compared to the rather mild price hikes seen in this country). There is also the issue of land being used to grow other non-corn food crops being diverted to corn-fuel farming, thus further reducing food production. If the entire world was just the US, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but we don't exist in a vacuum.
- sudont 16y ago
  There's a major difference between eating soy products and eating washed soy proteins that are combined with corn to create heavily processed foods. And while soy isn't directly correlated with obesity, it's usefulness as a protein has created additional venues for corn to be used. Furthermore, corn is generally used on feedlots for beef, and disastrously: beef there contains whacked-out levels of fat types, and is much more fatty overall. In terms of internationalism: the French, long held as bastions of good eating, are experiencing similar patterns of obesity as per the US in the early '90's as French diets change to fast foods and prepared meals.
asdfj843lkdjs 16y ago
Not to mention it actually costs less to buy a bushel of corn than it does to produce it !... but... but... but that's not a reason to use all that "surplus" cheap corn to make ethanol. It's a reason to stop subsidizing corn.

by sudont 16y ago

potatolicious 16y ago

> "Since corn and soy-based foods are one of the leading causes of obesity" In the US, yes. There are many cultures that have been heavily soy-based, for example, for centuries without health issues. Furthermore, there are even more developing countries on Earth that rely on corn as a staple food. The diversion of corn supplies to create fuel over food is widely regarded as a main cause of the last food price crisis, which impacted poor countries disastrously (compared to the rather mild price hikes seen in this country). There is also the issue of land being used to grow other non-corn food crops being diverted to corn-fuel farming, thus further reducing food production. If the entire world was just the US, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but we don't exist in a vacuum.

sudont 16y ago
There's a major difference between eating soy products and eating washed soy proteins that are combined with corn to create heavily processed foods. And while soy isn't directly correlated with obesity, it's usefulness as a protein has created additional venues for corn to be used. Furthermore, corn is generally used on feedlots for beef, and disastrously: beef there contains whacked-out levels of fat types, and is much more fatty overall. In terms of internationalism: the French, long held as bastions of good eating, are experiencing similar patterns of obesity as per the US in the early '90's as French diets change to fast foods and prepared meals.

asdfj843lkdjs 16y ago

Not to mention it actually costs less to buy a bushel of corn than it does to produce it !... but... but... but that's not a reason to use all that "surplus" cheap corn to make ethanol. It's a reason to stop subsidizing corn.