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I'm having trouble understanding how one can seriously consider NPR 'internal propaganda.' Their national broadcasts are like radically centrist and unbiased wh

I'm having trouble understanding how one can seriously consider NPR 'internal propaganda.' Their national broadcasts are like radically centrist and unbiased while the local/syndicated programs can be hard hitting and completely opposed to the government.

dragonwriter 7y ago
> I'm having trouble understanding how one can seriously consider NPR 'internal propaganda.' Their national broadcasts are like radically centrist and unbiased “Radically centrist” and “unbiased” are mutually incompatible descriptions, the former of which is compatible with propaganda favoring the elite consensus.
- unlinked_dll 7y ago
  Radically centrist in that they go out of their way not to be liberal or conservative in an attempt to stay unbiased, sometimes to the detriment of the programming.
  - adwi 7y ago
    I think we can all at least agree that is a delightful headline.
  - bitlax 7y ago
    Well they aren't liberal or conservative so much as establishment Democrat. And they regularly engage in bias by omission in their reporting.
    - pstuart 7y ago
      the bias is "don't upset the apple cart". I think the complaints about it being liberal are only valid in the context of not being rabidly right-wing.
      - pstuart 7y ago
        Ha. I don't mind the downvotes (because I'm right). The "shift to the right" is pretty well documented. The fact that "liberal" is considered a pejorative today is testament to that. I welcome proof otherwise. Edit: example #1 of "neutral bias": The war on drugs is reported on in a matter of fact manner, and I've heard ZERO editorial comments that point out the insanity and wrongfulness of it. Same thing with the wars, etc.
        bitlax 7y ago
        You could really show you don't care by not posting at all.
        jessaustin 7y ago
        I think nowadays "centrist" means "always supports all wars everywhere for any reason with any victim".
  - dragonwriter 7y ago
    > Radically centrist in that they go out of their way not to be liberal or conservative in an attempt to stay unbiased You can't go out of your way to avoid particular positions to stay unbiased. Going out of your way to avoid particular positions is bias.
Mathnerd314 7y ago
You just have to read the websites, like https://12bytes.org/articles/exposed/npr-national-public-radio-or-national-propaganda-radio https://12bytes.org/articles/exposed/npr-national-public-rad... or https://www.mrc.org/bozells-column/npr-admits-liberal-bias https://www.mrc.org/bozells-column/npr-admits-liberal-bias The criticism looks like most criticism of news media: braindead reporters, selective coverage, etc., pointing to some bias, but not really enough overall to be conclusive. And associated with the same sort of people that would sign a petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide. IDK, my experience is that news reports are OK for getting introduced to a topic but all the detailed/useful information is in blogs and databases these days.

dragonwriter 7y ago

> I'm having trouble understanding how one can seriously consider NPR 'internal propaganda.' Their national broadcasts are like radically centrist and unbiased “Radically centrist” and “unbiased” are mutually incompatible descriptions, the former of which is compatible with propaganda favoring the elite consensus.

unlinked_dll 7y ago
Radically centrist in that they go out of their way not to be liberal or conservative in an attempt to stay unbiased, sometimes to the detriment of the programming.
- adwi 7y ago
  I think we can all at least agree that is a delightful headline.
- bitlax 7y ago
  Well they aren't liberal or conservative so much as establishment Democrat. And they regularly engage in bias by omission in their reporting.
  - pstuart 7y ago
    the bias is "don't upset the apple cart". I think the complaints about it being liberal are only valid in the context of not being rabidly right-wing.
    - pstuart 7y ago
      Ha. I don't mind the downvotes (because I'm right). The "shift to the right" is pretty well documented. The fact that "liberal" is considered a pejorative today is testament to that. I welcome proof otherwise. Edit: example #1 of "neutral bias": The war on drugs is reported on in a matter of fact manner, and I've heard ZERO editorial comments that point out the insanity and wrongfulness of it. Same thing with the wars, etc.
      - bitlax 7y ago
        You could really show you don't care by not posting at all.
      - jessaustin 7y ago
        I think nowadays "centrist" means "always supports all wars everywhere for any reason with any victim".
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  > Radically centrist in that they go out of their way not to be liberal or conservative in an attempt to stay unbiased You can't go out of your way to avoid particular positions to stay unbiased. Going out of your way to avoid particular positions is bias.

Mathnerd314 7y ago

You just have to read the websites, like https://12bytes.org/articles/exposed/npr-national-public-radio-or-national-propaganda-radio https://12bytes.org/articles/exposed/npr-national-public-rad... or https://www.mrc.org/bozells-column/npr-admits-liberal-bias https://www.mrc.org/bozells-column/npr-admits-liberal-bias The criticism looks like most criticism of news media: braindead reporters, selective coverage, etc., pointing to some bias, but not really enough overall to be conclusive. And associated with the same sort of people that would sign a petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide. IDK, my experience is that news reports are OK for getting introduced to a topic but all the detailed/useful information is in blogs and databases these days.