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Zuckerberg continues to increase my support for a breakup of the facebook/instagram/whatsapp/oculus. He's not the sort of person that should be entrusted with

Zuckerberg continues to increase my support for a breakup of the facebook/instagram/whatsapp/oculus. He's not the sort of person that should be entrusted with the awesome power he's wielding over the world, if there are any.

clay_the_ripper 7y ago
I’m curious why you think that. I find Mark Zuckerberg to be measured, reasonable, thoughtful and I believe him to genuinely care about the values he espouses. Personally I could not think of anyone I would rather have run Facebook. With such great power, I think it’s positive to have a platform that represents a diverse set of views, and is committed to not policing content unless absolutely necessary.
- r00fus 7y ago
  His own words. His inability to have moral standings that interfere with his company's profits. He not only runs FB, he owns it and has 100% control over it - he has the majority of vote share on the board. If he goes bad or power gets to his head, there's nothing to stop him but government.
  - fsociety 7y ago
    They could easily go the Apple route and sellout their own mission to be a product in China but they didn't. That's a moral standing which does interfere with an enormous amount of profits.
    - wavefunction 7y ago
      You sure about that? https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/22/technology/facebook-censorship-tool-china.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/22/technology/facebook-censo... I know they're not operating in China but that appears to be because Chinese authorities have blocked them and not any particular moral stance.
  - clay_the_ripper 7y ago
    Exactly my point. Facebook is a powerful organization in which one person exerts a lot of control. If said person “goes bad” that would be very bad for everyone. Fortunately for us, Mark Zuckerberg isn’t going to “go bad” which is exactly my point. How could he? After everything he has said and done and stands for publicly he would be an outcast. A pariah. Reviled in the history books. Additionally, he’s setting up an independent review board that codifies his way of thinking into a system that is independent and separate. Is it perfect? No. Could it be corrupted? Probably. Will it? I doubt it.
    - r00fus 7y ago
      > Fortunately for us, Mark Zuckerberg isn’t going to “go bad” Your unquestioning faith is... unrealistic. Absolute power & all that.
- ozten 7y ago
  Zuckerberg has a long history of breaking user trust, apologizing, promising NEVER to do it again, waiting a while... and either breaking that same user trust or breaking it in a new way. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/timeline-facebook-s-privacy-issues-its-responses-n859651 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/timeline-facebook-...
- wavefunction 7y ago
  I find him completely untrustworthy starting with his famous statements regarding his early users and their privacy expectations. Since then he hasn't done anything to engender trust but has enabled the spreading of outright falsehoods and propaganda, and extremist and violent content that emboldens others to act out their own sick fantasies. The World Wide Web already provides an open platform representing "diverse views" and I see absolutely no value in facebook trying to claim that mantle as they have promoted such "diverse views" as the mass shooting videos and ISIS execution and propaganda videos even when alerted to the presence on their platform. facebook under Mark Zuckerberg has not shown themselves to be worthy of trust and in fact have shown the opposite. facebook needs to be broken apart into its constituent parts as they cannot be trusted as they are.
mav3rick 7y ago
Yes we should trust your judge of character o great one.
- dang 7y ago
  Personal attacks break the site guidelines. We ban accounts that do that, so please don't. We've had to ask you before. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

clay_the_ripper 7y ago

I’m curious why you think that. I find Mark Zuckerberg to be measured, reasonable, thoughtful and I believe him to genuinely care about the values he espouses. Personally I could not think of anyone I would rather have run Facebook. With such great power, I think it’s positive to have a platform that represents a diverse set of views, and is committed to not policing content unless absolutely necessary.

r00fus 7y ago
His own words. His inability to have moral standings that interfere with his company's profits. He not only runs FB, he owns it and has 100% control over it - he has the majority of vote share on the board. If he goes bad or power gets to his head, there's nothing to stop him but government.
- fsociety 7y ago
  They could easily go the Apple route and sellout their own mission to be a product in China but they didn't. That's a moral standing which does interfere with an enormous amount of profits.
  - wavefunction 7y ago
    You sure about that? https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/22/technology/facebook-censorship-tool-china.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/22/technology/facebook-censo... I know they're not operating in China but that appears to be because Chinese authorities have blocked them and not any particular moral stance.
- clay_the_ripper 7y ago
  Exactly my point. Facebook is a powerful organization in which one person exerts a lot of control. If said person “goes bad” that would be very bad for everyone. Fortunately for us, Mark Zuckerberg isn’t going to “go bad” which is exactly my point. How could he? After everything he has said and done and stands for publicly he would be an outcast. A pariah. Reviled in the history books. Additionally, he’s setting up an independent review board that codifies his way of thinking into a system that is independent and separate. Is it perfect? No. Could it be corrupted? Probably. Will it? I doubt it.
  - r00fus 7y ago
    > Fortunately for us, Mark Zuckerberg isn’t going to “go bad” Your unquestioning faith is... unrealistic. Absolute power & all that.
ozten 7y ago
Zuckerberg has a long history of breaking user trust, apologizing, promising NEVER to do it again, waiting a while... and either breaking that same user trust or breaking it in a new way. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/timeline-facebook-s-privacy-issues-its-responses-n859651 https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/timeline-facebook-...
wavefunction 7y ago
I find him completely untrustworthy starting with his famous statements regarding his early users and their privacy expectations. Since then he hasn't done anything to engender trust but has enabled the spreading of outright falsehoods and propaganda, and extremist and violent content that emboldens others to act out their own sick fantasies. The World Wide Web already provides an open platform representing "diverse views" and I see absolutely no value in facebook trying to claim that mantle as they have promoted such "diverse views" as the mass shooting videos and ISIS execution and propaganda videos even when alerted to the presence on their platform. facebook under Mark Zuckerberg has not shown themselves to be worthy of trust and in fact have shown the opposite. facebook needs to be broken apart into its constituent parts as they cannot be trusted as they are.

mav3rick 7y ago

Yes we should trust your judge of character o great one.

dang 7y ago
Personal attacks break the site guidelines. We ban accounts that do that, so please don't. We've had to ask you before. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html