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"Docker desktop for mac is closed source software, which is dumb for something that asks for administrator permissions on your local machine. This lameness asid

"Docker desktop for mac is closed source software, which is dumb for something that asks for administrator permissions on your local machine. This lameness aside, it runs the docker daemon..." ...Proceeds to run MacOS...

jacobush 7y ago
Sure, but there are probably more eyes on MacOS releases than on Docker releases.
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TheRealPomax 7y ago
Like every time someone points this out: there are an unreasonable amount of companies that don't let you pick anything else. It's either a macbook, or a macbook, and if you want a different machine go buy it yourself and use it outside of work hours "because we can't afford writing three different copies of the same internal documentation for more than one OS when we're the ones paying for the machine you work on". And in an unfortunate twist, if you _have_ to run Docker, macos is actually the best choice for that. Installing it on linux or windows is an exercise in "you know what, maybe I should buy a mac for this instead".
- majewsky 7y ago
  > Installing [Docker] on linux [...] is an exercise in "you know what, maybe I should buy a mac for this instead". This quip is outdated. Installing Docker on Linux is only a hassle if you're using ancient distributions like Debian or RHEL from 5-10 years ago. Anything released after about 2016 should have no problems at all running Docker, and probably comes with Docker in the default repos.
- as1mov 7y ago
  > Installing it on linux or windows is an exercise ...? Am I missing something obvious? Installing docker on Ubuntu is as simple as sudo apt install docker.io and you're done. Installing from the official repos is simple too if you want the latest version [1] [1] https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-use-docker-on-ubuntu-18-04 https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-inst...
- eitland 7y ago
  > And in an unfortunate twist, if you _have_ to run Docker, macos is actually the best choice for that. You are aware that Docker is a Linux technology right? As others have pointed out it is trivial to install on Linux compared to Windows or Mac. I get it that Mac folks like their Macs, and I will argue your case at work, but please stop the misinformation campaign. Mac is different than Windows and Linux. Not generally better. It is better than Linux for running Adobe software. It is horrible for running gimp. It cannot run Docker natively but it might have a number of other advantages. Source: I once used a Mac. Started with great enthusiasm, gave up three years later, massively disappointed. Liter realized Mac actually is the best computer that exists for Mac users, but not for me and many others.
sigjuice 7y ago
I never understood the appeal of Docker for mac. It just runs a Linux VM under the covers. If I need to use docker, I just run it in a Linux VM.
lloeki 7y ago
I use docker, docker-machine, and virtualbox, the former two built and packaged from ArchMac. Too bad docker-machine-driver-xhyve is not seeing more love. Docker for Mac is a mess, it regularly pegs CPUs for no obvious reason at all on idling containers among other things. Plus now it packages k8s which made it balloon in size.

jacobush 7y ago

Sure, but there are probably more eyes on MacOS releases than on Docker releases.

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TheRealPomax 7y ago

Like every time someone points this out: there are an unreasonable amount of companies that don't let you pick anything else. It's either a macbook, or a macbook, and if you want a different machine go buy it yourself and use it outside of work hours "because we can't afford writing three different copies of the same internal documentation for more than one OS when we're the ones paying for the machine you work on". And in an unfortunate twist, if you _have_ to run Docker, macos is actually the best choice for that. Installing it on linux or windows is an exercise in "you know what, maybe I should buy a mac for this instead".

majewsky 7y ago
> Installing [Docker] on linux [...] is an exercise in "you know what, maybe I should buy a mac for this instead". This quip is outdated. Installing Docker on Linux is only a hassle if you're using ancient distributions like Debian or RHEL from 5-10 years ago. Anything released after about 2016 should have no problems at all running Docker, and probably comes with Docker in the default repos.
as1mov 7y ago
> Installing it on linux or windows is an exercise ...? Am I missing something obvious? Installing docker on Ubuntu is as simple as sudo apt install docker.io and you're done. Installing from the official repos is simple too if you want the latest version [1] [1] https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-use-docker-on-ubuntu-18-04 https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-inst...
eitland 7y ago
> And in an unfortunate twist, if you _have_ to run Docker, macos is actually the best choice for that. You are aware that Docker is a Linux technology right? As others have pointed out it is trivial to install on Linux compared to Windows or Mac. I get it that Mac folks like their Macs, and I will argue your case at work, but please stop the misinformation campaign. Mac is different than Windows and Linux. Not generally better. It is better than Linux for running Adobe software. It is horrible for running gimp. It cannot run Docker natively but it might have a number of other advantages. Source: I once used a Mac. Started with great enthusiasm, gave up three years later, massively disappointed. Liter realized Mac actually is the best computer that exists for Mac users, but not for me and many others.

sigjuice 7y ago

I never understood the appeal of Docker for mac. It just runs a Linux VM under the covers. If I need to use docker, I just run it in a Linux VM.

lloeki 7y ago

I use docker, docker-machine, and virtualbox, the former two built and packaged from ArchMac. Too bad docker-machine-driver-xhyve is not seeing more love. Docker for Mac is a mess, it regularly pegs CPUs for no obvious reason at all on idling containers among other things. Plus now it packages k8s which made it balloon in size.