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I have voice-activated assistant on my droid turned off, meanwhile Siri is active on all iDevices, and everyone with a laptop at your place is a mole. Do you e

I have voice-activated assistant on my droid turned off, meanwhile Siri is active on all iDevices, and everyone with a laptop at your place is a mole. Do you expect to altogether prevent people from bringing computing devices into your home? If you are not a state target, then that is just silly. Focus your malcontent on the real bad actors, not their victims.

kaffeemitsahne 7y ago
The various states would love to have as much data as they can on every citizen. Therefore, we're all state targets.
- soulofmischief 7y ago
  Language is useless if we don't set boundaries. In this case, as you already know despite wanting to twist its meaning, "State target" refers to someone whom the state is specifically, actively expending resources in order to target. Target being the key word. Being part of a giant nation-wide dragnet doesn't make you a target.
a3n 7y ago
Actually this is interesting. Some US states require two party consent for recording. Doesn't that make a phone in your pocket illegal in those states, unless you say "I have a phone in my pocket, and it's recording."
- soulofmischief 7y ago
  Let's travel to such a state and find out for ourselves. We'll flip a coin on who gets to be the defendant.
skrause 7y ago
> I have voice-activated assistant on my droid turned off, meanwhile Siri is active on all iDevices This is not true, voice-activated Siri is a setting as well and turned off on my iPhone.
- willyt 7y ago
  Also, 'Hey Siri' is supposedly processed locally on the phone using the Neural Engine part of Apples custom ARM chip so it should only upload voice data after you have said 'Hey Siri' or held down the home button to activate it. You can test this if you put the phone in airplane mode or go somewhere with no reception and say 'hey siri', it still recognises that you want to ask it something but just presents a message saying 'internet not available'
  - mav3rick 7y ago
    This is true on Pixel as well. It would be too slow otherwise.

kaffeemitsahne 7y ago

The various states would love to have as much data as they can on every citizen. Therefore, we're all state targets.

soulofmischief 7y ago
Language is useless if we don't set boundaries. In this case, as you already know despite wanting to twist its meaning, "State target" refers to someone whom the state is specifically, actively expending resources in order to target. Target being the key word. Being part of a giant nation-wide dragnet doesn't make you a target.

a3n 7y ago

Actually this is interesting. Some US states require two party consent for recording. Doesn't that make a phone in your pocket illegal in those states, unless you say "I have a phone in my pocket, and it's recording."

soulofmischief 7y ago
Let's travel to such a state and find out for ourselves. We'll flip a coin on who gets to be the defendant.

skrause 7y ago

> I have voice-activated assistant on my droid turned off, meanwhile Siri is active on all iDevices This is not true, voice-activated Siri is a setting as well and turned off on my iPhone.

willyt 7y ago
Also, 'Hey Siri' is supposedly processed locally on the phone using the Neural Engine part of Apples custom ARM chip so it should only upload voice data after you have said 'Hey Siri' or held down the home button to activate it. You can test this if you put the phone in airplane mode or go somewhere with no reception and say 'hey siri', it still recognises that you want to ask it something but just presents a message saying 'internet not available'
- mav3rick 7y ago
  This is true on Pixel as well. It would be too slow otherwise.