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It's the wild west -- corporations are just doing what they want while governments are asleep at the wheel. Also, having an army of lawyers is exactly what all
by hardwaresofton 7y ago
It's the wild west -- corporations are just doing what they want while governments are asleep at the wheel.
Also, having an army of lawyers is exactly what allows for this -- you need to know which areas are gray in order to exploit them without risk of retribution/regulation. A basic minutes-long conversation would have likely arrived at the point of how recording of the owner themselves/third parties would affect the product.
- bilbo0s 7y ago>corporations are just doing what they want while governments are asleep at the wheel. That assumes the governments aren't in on it. They probably want the data more than the corporations. I mean, you know, "security" and all.
- nkrisc 7y agoThe government itself doing the things these corporation do would generate loads of outrage. For whatever reason it's a lot more acceptable for a company to collect all this data so you can play music with your voice and then the government can secretly collect it all later if they wish.
- Clubber 7y agoAre you not aware of the Ed Snowden revelations? I mean the NSA is piped into all these corporate data streams.
- nkrisc 7y agoI'm very aware. That's kind of my point.
- Clubber 7y agoI'm sure selling data to the NSA, federal, state and local governments is very lucrative to these companies and is a primary revenue stream.
- nothrabannosir 7y agoA primary revenue stream? For a public company, which has to publish its financials yet somehow keep this hidden? This sounds far fetched, to be honest.
- faceblob2 7y agoGovernments and corporations are filled with deceitful, self-serving, corrupt people. If there is a monetary interest, the transaction will take place. If that has to happen under the radar, it will. The agencies will excuse their actions by citing "defense". It is in the interest of National Security, therefore, that the data is handed/sold to the government, and the mechanism of this transfer is classified owing to National Security interests. Or maybe it's easier than that. Maybe Google is just a government agency. An Alphabet agency.
- nkrisc 7y agoUnlikely, in my opinion. More likely the government can come along with national security letters or other means we might not even be aware of and just take what they need. On the other hand some companies have been shown to be very willing to sell data to any buyer, not just the government. Phone carriers come to mind.
- hutzlibu 7y agoThe point is, that a corporation takes data only from their customers who consent to it (if they would read it). The government would spie on potentielly everybody (and they do btw.)
- bilbo0s 7y agoNot really true. FB for instance stores tagged image data of non-FB-users.
- navigatesol 7y ago>That assumes the governments aren't in on it. My theory is the opposite. Career politicians have a lot to lose from universal data collection. They are already running into issues caused by 5-year-old tweets; imagine if their whole digital history was leaked? This is the one silver lining regarding legislation prospects.
- dmix 7y agoThe government should regulate whether devices alert themselves to new guests in the house?