True. However the fact remains that k8s doesn't have a primitive here - so the toolsets (helm, docker stacks) have to manage it on a beat effort basis. In Swar

True. However the fact remains that k8s doesn't have a primitive here - so the toolsets (helm, docker stacks) have to manage it on a beat effort basis. In Swarm, the stack is an atomic unit. That's what Microsoft is trying to fix - the atomicity of an abstraction level that is higher than K8s Services. Not sure why they didnt do this as part of the k8s core committee process.