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Did I miss something? Is there a reason why you have to qualify that you're not advocating for Joe Rogan? Did he get "cancelled"?
by imgabe 7y ago
Did I miss something? Is there a reason why you have to qualify that you're not advocating for Joe Rogan? Did he get "cancelled"?
- draw_down 7y agoI think it's ok not to advocate for Joe Rogan.
- anm89 7y agoTo clarify I don't dislike Rogan. I don't always like him either. I think he occasionally makes great points and sometimes says profoundly dumb stuff. The point is he's divisive and I don't wan't this to become a Joe Rogan debate.
- dmix 7y ago> I don't always like him either. I think he occasionally makes great points and sometimes says profoundly dumb stuff. This is most people, especially the talking head types. This new purity test we're giving every celebrity is unrealistic and culturally/intellectually self-destructive. Some people are even reaching back decades.
- imgabe 7y agoFair enough, I was just genuinely curious. I only started listening to him recently and didn't realize he was someone people would want to argue about.
- justinmchase 7y agoHe's willing to interview right wing people and treat them as if they're people.
- johnmaguire2013 7y agoWhile you're not wrong, I don't think this is the issue people have with Joe Rogan's lack of criticism towards some of his interviewees. Unless by "right wing" you mean people like Alex Jones, and by "treat them as if they're people" you mean not challenge factually incorrect statements. Then I guess you're right.
- sorenn111 7y agoI find it interesting that an admittedly not-that-smart (calls himself a moron regularly) fighter/comedian who just talks with all sorts of people is sufficiently divisive enough to merit such asterisks. Strange times.
- weaksauce 7y agoI think it's because he's not that bright and has one of the most prolific podcasts in terms of listeners that he's divisive. He is mostly uncritical of whatever someone says and isn't that quick on the draw to call people out so he's basically a platform for any mildly famous person to go on the show and spew whatever crackpot theory there is for a few hours unchallenged to his huge base of listeners. He himself is not that controversial but he allows on controversial characters unchallenged.
- midnighttoker 7y agoCorrect. He has many interesting guests and interviews. Then he has on some far right asshole to spew their rhetoric unchallenged.
- kodt 7y agoIt is mostly because he has hosted some controversial guests such as Milo Yiannopoulos, Jordan Peterson, and Sargon of Akkad. And by hosting them he is accused of giving the alt-right a platform while also not sufficiently attacking their views.
- swebs 7y agoThe fact that some people claim Jordan Peterson is somehow alt right is even more ridiculous.
- lone_haxx0r 7y agoI don't know of a single person in the world that doesn't say profoundly dumb stuff sometimes.
- chipotle_coyote 7y agoIs there a reason someone shouldn't make such a clarification if they choose? "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend your right to say it" gets brought up an awful lot in free speech discussions on HN, and that's fine, but we need to emember that it definitionally includes defending the right to say, implicitly or explicitly, "That guy over there is saying really stupid/dangerous things and this is why he should stop and why you shouldn't listen to him."
- imgabe 7y agoIs there a reason someone shouldn't ask about the reasoning behind such a clarification? I never disputed their right to make it, just didn't understand why.
- justinmchase 7y agoPeople try, they label him various things and will call you "alt right" if you don't qualify your reference to him. Its a pretty desperate label but they try.
- kodt 7y agoThere is a contingent out there who are very much against him if only for the reason that he has given a platform to people they don't like.
- dang 7y agoWe detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21275269 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21275269 and marked it off-topic. The comment originally said something like "Not advocating for Joe Rogan but..."