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America has become very polarized over just the past decade. We say we want diversity, but that doesn't include that one fundie Christian person who reads his o

America has become very polarized over just the past decade. We say we want diversity, but that doesn't include that one fundie Christian person who reads his or her Bible at lunch and believes that homosexuality is wrong, but still wants to be friends with and accept everyone. We want diversity of people, but not diversity of ideas or ideology. People are afraid to talk about anything remotely controversial today, because it could result in a call for them to be fired or resign. We've seen it in academia and I feel like we're going to see it more in industry. One opinion stated on a blog or social media will be enough for others to dig up every hint of anything someone has ever posted that could be seen as negative and outright calls to have them leave. There's almost a point system in call-out culture; a subconscious social credit system among those who participate. The Coddling of the American Mind is a great book that talks about this growth in the academic space. It's made professors afraid to talk about difficult topics with their students.

magduf 7y ago
>but that doesn't include that one fundie Christian person who reads his or her Bible at lunch and believes that homosexuality is wrong, but still wants to be friends with and accept everyone. Where is this person? In my experience, the fundies like this just can't stop from telling others how their lifestyles are "immoral" and "wrong". That's the problem with religious extremists like this, and why people who want "diversity" don't want people like this around: they're actively opposed to diversity, and because of their dogmatic religious nature, they feel the need to push their opinions on everyone. >We want diversity of people, but not diversity of ideas or ideology. Well, yes. The idea of "diversity" is having different people from different backgrounds together in one group, and (here's the important part) getting along well. You can't do that when some of them have a hateful ideology and they hate other members of the group and attempt to hurt them in some way. How would you have a diverse group composed of people of various nationalities, and then throw some neo-Nazis in there? It wouldn't work; you'd probably have violence, or at least some serious discord. There is of course a danger to this as you've pointed out, that things can go too far in the other direction and people are afraid to voice any negative opinion, but I'm just pointing out why calls for "diversity" don't actually include certain groups of people, because those groups are inherently opposed to diversity in the first place, and have a long track record of causing problems with it.
- jdnenej 7y ago
  Pretty much. If the religious fundie really did want to be friends with everyone they would not personally attack the people they want to be friends with. I don't see why it should be required that anyone put up with this hate when they have plenty of other decent people to be friends with.
- throw_xyzyz 7y ago
  >Where is this person? Donald Knuth for one: https://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/things.html https://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/things.html

magduf 7y ago

>but that doesn't include that one fundie Christian person who reads his or her Bible at lunch and believes that homosexuality is wrong, but still wants to be friends with and accept everyone. Where is this person? In my experience, the fundies like this just can't stop from telling others how their lifestyles are "immoral" and "wrong". That's the problem with religious extremists like this, and why people who want "diversity" don't want people like this around: they're actively opposed to diversity, and because of their dogmatic religious nature, they feel the need to push their opinions on everyone. >We want diversity of people, but not diversity of ideas or ideology. Well, yes. The idea of "diversity" is having different people from different backgrounds together in one group, and (here's the important part) getting along well. You can't do that when some of them have a hateful ideology and they hate other members of the group and attempt to hurt them in some way. How would you have a diverse group composed of people of various nationalities, and then throw some neo-Nazis in there? It wouldn't work; you'd probably have violence, or at least some serious discord. There is of course a danger to this as you've pointed out, that things can go too far in the other direction and people are afraid to voice any negative opinion, but I'm just pointing out why calls for "diversity" don't actually include certain groups of people, because those groups are inherently opposed to diversity in the first place, and have a long track record of causing problems with it.

jdnenej 7y ago
Pretty much. If the religious fundie really did want to be friends with everyone they would not personally attack the people they want to be friends with. I don't see why it should be required that anyone put up with this hate when they have plenty of other decent people to be friends with.
throw_xyzyz 7y ago
>Where is this person? Donald Knuth for one: https://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/things.html https://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~knuth/things.html