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Back when the treaty signed, Native Americans did not have the right to vote (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_civil_rights#Voting https://en.wikip
by RcouF1uZ4gsC 7y ago
Back when the treaty signed, Native Americans did not have the right to vote (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_civil_rights#Voting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_civil_rights#V...) thus a delegate would have been the only way for Native Americans to have a voice in Congress. This is the same with the other delegates, who all represent places that do not otherwise have representation in Congress.
Now Native Americans all have the right to vote, and thus have a voice in Congress.
It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
- gscott 7y agoMany tribal lands don't have street addresses and in some states you have to have a residence with an address to vote.
- Rebelgecko 7y agoStill? IIRC North Dakota tried to make that the law but it was struck down.
- kej 7y agoThe supreme court upheld the requirement that IDs have a street address, but some (maybe most or all, not sure) of the tribal authorities were able to assign street names and reissue IDs in time.
- sjg007 7y agoWe should all move to gps coordinates
- tpm 7y agoGPS coordinates of houses can change, while the address should stay the same.
- JasonFruit 7y agoDo you mean if the same house is moved to a new location on the same lot? I'm finding this difficult to imagine.
- tpm 7y agoNo, I mean the movement of earth underneath the house, tectonic plates etc. Earthquakes are one obvious example: https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/7182/does-an-earthquake-affect-gps https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/7182/does-an-earthqu...
- ralmeida 7y agoTo be fair, the cited displacement of 8 ft (average for non-earthquake situations is 0 to 10cm) is within the typical margin of error of a GPS. That is, the coordinate change is small enough not to matter for “election” purposes.
- sjg007 7y agoFine... GPS coordinates as of a specific date.
- lacker 7y agoAddresses change a lot more often than gps coordinates. Streets get renamed, removed, or renumbered.
- dillondoyle 7y agoYes this was an issue in a race I worked last cycle in Montana. Deliberately hostile SOS to benefit Rs
- mrec 7y ago"SOS"?
- geofft 7y ago"Secretary of state," I assume.
- mtnGoat 7y agoSecretary of State, i believe.
- dillondoyle 7y agosecretary of state sorry!
- WaitWaitWha 7y agoReading the "How to Register to Vote" indicates otherwise. sosmt.gov/elections/vote/#how-to-register-to-vote Specifically "You will need to provide a residence address or specific geographic location information from which your residence address may be determined. The residence address must be in the county in which you are registering." This clearly allows someone without an "address" to register. In my experience identifying the Post Office on or near the tribe's land is plenty sufficient.
- cthalupa 7y ago>or specific geographic location information from which your residence address may be determined. The 'from which your residence address may be determined" reads, to me, like you still need an address. If you don't have a residence address, how can you provide information that determines where it is? It's nonexistent.
- devicetray0 7y agoIs there a reason why they don't have a street address in 2019? Do they not want them or is it funding or something else?
- plurple 7y agoNative American land laws are a disaster, and it’s not their fault. It’s a large contributor to poverty as well. I’m still not sure if that was an unintended or intended consequence of US govt treaties.
- undreren 7y agoWhy is this comment so downvoted? I'm not american, and I was also curious about why they don't have an adress. As far as I know, only homeless people don't have an adress in Denmark. EDIT: Great, now I'm downvoted as well! Huzzah!
- goodcanadian 7y agoNot native American, but grew up in a rural area (in Canada). My parents only got a "street address" a couple of years ago. There is a land location system going back over a century, but basically no one who didn't live on a farm new how to interpret it (say 98% of the population), and so it was basically useless as an address. The new "street address" is actually based on the land location, but it is formatted like a street address (house number, road name) rather than specifying quarter, section, township, range, meridian. Throughout my childhood, we usually just used a postal address, but in the last couple of decades, bank officials and the like have gotten more and more insistent on a physical address which we were basically unable to provide.
- abandonliberty 7y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Land_Survey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Land_Survey
- wglb 7y agoWhere I grew up in Montana, we didn't have a street address. Only about 20 years ago did they name the road (after my grandfather) and assign addresses.
- daveslash 7y agoIIRC, this "need to have an address" is something that had adversely affected some nomadic people Inuits of Nunavut, Canada. I guess that many of them were, more or less, forced to adopt permanent residences and it destroyed their nomadic way of life. It's something that had never occurred to me until a read an article on it. I'm sure the problem is more pervasive that I know.
- shaneprrlt 7y agoAll I have to say to this is a deal's a deal. Doesn't matter if it was 184 years ago. :)
- unchocked 7y agoThe Civil War happened subsequently, in which many Cherokee fought for the Confederacy. 25 U.S.C. Sec. 72 allows the President to declare treaties abrogated by tribes engaging in "actual hostility to the United States", which alliance with the Confederacy certainly was. So the issue is more complicated than you state. * addendum since this is likely flame bait. The Cherokee, having been betrayed by Andrew Jackson and by the United States in general, had plenty of reason to support the confederacy. Have a look at Wikipedia for a historical overview: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_in_the_American_Civil_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_in_the_American_Civil...
- jeremyjh 7y agoA lot of people fought for the confederacy, but their descendants still have representation in congress because peace was made and status restored. Also I don't think you can make a case that the Cherokee Nation was at war with the United States during that time, just because some of its citizens joined irregular militias.
- COGlory 7y agoCherokee also have representation in Congress because they have senators and representatives that they vote for every year just like everyone else.
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- dajohnson89 7y agoI believe the sentiment is that Cherokees and other native american nations aren't sufficiently represented by their elected officials. in much the same way they have been marginalized for centuries.
- NotSammyHagar 7y agoThey theoretically have a right to vote. Stop making laws that disenfranchise them, then you can consider changing the deal. But we made a deal. Plus the us has never stood up to it's side of deals with native americans.