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america has 350 million people. california, for example, has 40 million people. netherlands has 17 million people. india has 1300 million people. population de
by jelliclesfarm 7y ago
america has 350 million people. california, for example, has 40 million people.
netherlands has 17 million people. india has 1300 million people. population density of netherlands is 488 people/km2. population density of india is 416 people/km2.
usa is 98 people/km2. we are not netherlands or india.
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/netherlands/india https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/netherlands/ind... : netherlands and india country comparison.
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/netherlands/usa https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/netherlands/usa : netherlands and usa country comparison
https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/india/usa https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/india/usa : india and usa country comparison
continual improvement is aka constant readjustments for optimal function. america functions just fine because of our less than highly dense population/km2. stability is not a negative point. change and progress occurs with stability too. perhaps india and netherlands ought to consider stability and aim for lesser population density.
- mdemare 7y agoThe US has 34 people/km2. Aiming for lower population density is why the Netherlands turns sea into land.
- nickez 7y agoIsn't this misleading though? Doesn't the vast majority of Americans live in higher density areas?
- thfuran 7y agoMassachusetts, for example, has a population density of about 340 / sq km
- CydeWeys 7y agoAnd the cities within it are much more highly populated still, with population centers at the East and west ends. The center is relatively less populated.
- jelliclesfarm 7y agoThe middle is agricultural land. You have to consider rural areas akin to industrial areas or open air factories. Because acres under industry is not suitable for residences.
- CydeWeys 7y agoAgricultural/rural land doesn't need public transportation. The actual space within the US that merits it is a tiny fraction of the country, a much smaller fraction than in more densely populated European countries.
- jelliclesfarm 7y agoWell. That would be the literal definition of ‘higher density area’. I don’t understand why that is misleading? https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population_density https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_p... :
- Nitramp 7y ago> america functions just fine [...] I think reasonable people might disagree with that assessment. Also, as an example the South Bay (Santa Clara County) houses 2'400 ppl/km2. That's cherry picking a bit, but somewhat comparable to the Netherlands' densely populated area (the Randstad @ ~1'600/km2). The US just happens to contain a lot of desert in the middle, but that says little about the metropolitan areas. I don't think anyone suggests Alaska should polder-up or Nevada desperately needs urban mass transit.
- jelliclesfarm 7y agoHow do you think America is malfunctioning compared to other countries? I have never seen anyone trip over to try and immigrate to Netherlands. US has a lot of ‘desert’ in the middle? Pray do tell..what is the name of said desert in the middle of America?
- dr_dshiv 7y agoI immigrated to the Netherlands. I lived in Denver, Cleveland, new haven, NYC and San Diego. I love them all. That said, the Netherlands truly does many things better than America. It is such a great place to raise kids. America will not be great if it doesn't steal good ideas where they exist.
- jelliclesfarm 7y agoI am sure every country does what it can do best, best. The notion that one can be best in something means that there is second to best and there will be someone at the bottom of the pile. Constant comparison of United States with Scandinavian and Nordic countries isn’t helpful. At all. Bernie Sanders started this circle jerk. And it is entirely unhelpful. It’s not a competition or a race. We all work with what we have.
- jelliclesfarm 7y agoWould you be willing to share the nature of your immigration? I understand if you would rather not. Just curious.
- CydeWeys 7y agoThis argument always comes up and it's always so easy to refute, because the vast majority of America is not inhabited at any meaningful level of density. You can simply ignore those parts. No one's proposing building subways in the Nevada desert, Alaskan wilderness, etc. Most Americans live within or near cities that are populous enough to support car-free lifestyles.
- jelliclesfarm 7y agoThis is simply untrue. Habitable land is different from total span of a country. Habitable land assumes that there is public infrastructure, networked transport and public roadways and essential services.