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Could you expand on the result of said innovation? Where would I see Kinect driven innovation in everyday life?

throwaway_bad 7y ago
A lot of early 3d scanners were just repurposed Kinects: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KOUSSlKUJ-A https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KOUSSlKUJ-A
cushychicken 7y ago
Much of that technology was improved and miniaturized, and incorporated into the Apple Face ID bar at the top of the iPhone X.
- jdietrich 7y ago
  Apple bought PrimeSense (the company behind Kinect) for $360m. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PrimeSense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PrimeSense
- Judgmentality 7y ago
  Personally I feel FaceID is a step backwards from fingerprint readers. It doesn't work as often for me (facial hair, hat, lighting, hoodie, and sometimes it's just finnicky) and there are privacy concerns. The fingerprint reader isn't perfect, but for me it was better. I can touch it while pulling the phone out of my pocket and it's unlocked when I open it. I'm frustrated with Google's choice to copy Apple and remove this feature from the Pixel 4. It's literally the only reason I'm not buying one.
  - machello13 7y ago
    What privacy concerns are there?
    - Judgmentality 7y ago
      I guess it depends on whether or not you consider a 3D scan of your face personal data. As face-tracking becomes more prevalent, I'd say this is the worst thing you could voluntarily give away. Your face can be scanned just walking through a crowd in public, a fingerprint is only usable when you physically touch something (and the digital version is always prompted so you can't be identified in a crowd unexpectedly like you can with a face).
      - machello13 7y ago
        I would agree facial recognition in a general sense has privacy implications — but in the case of Face ID I think the implementation is sufficiently secure.
        Judgmentality 7y ago
        I agree Apple is one of the few companies that takes security seriously. That said, it only takes one hack/leak to compromise your biometric data forever. You can't change it as easily as a password. And you're voluntarily giving it up...for what? A worse unlocking experience? If it weren't for the novelty factor I am confident most people would not use it - probably why the hardware is removing it as an option. Also it's no secret those companies want the extra data for training better models and this is a "free" way to get really high quality data. As far as things to bemoan in tech this is pretty low on the totem pole. I'm just annoyed because I wanted to buy a new phone and can't find one that has what I want at any price. EDIT: I saw this article seconds after finishing this comment, which seems ironic. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50080586 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50080586
        machello13 7y ago
        I think you should read up a bit more on the technical implementation of Face ID. The data never leaves the phone and, even if an attacker had physical access to the phone, they could not get the information. Apple is getting no training data from it. > If it weren't for the novelty factor I am confident most people would not use it I think this is really incorrect. You really think everyone is using Touch ID and Face ID only because of the novelty factor, and not because it's significantly more convenient (and, at least in many cases, more secure)? That if it wasn't "fun", everyone would be completely okay going back to entering 6-digit passcodes?
mappu 7y ago
I know of MSc and PhD work to use the Kinect as a low-cost alignment system for radiotherapy patients.

A lot of early 3d scanners were just repurposed Kinects: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KOUSSlKUJ-A https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KOUSSlKUJ-A

cushychicken 7y ago

Much of that technology was improved and miniaturized, and incorporated into the Apple Face ID bar at the top of the iPhone X.

jdietrich 7y ago
Apple bought PrimeSense (the company behind Kinect) for $360m. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PrimeSense https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PrimeSense
Judgmentality 7y ago
Personally I feel FaceID is a step backwards from fingerprint readers. It doesn't work as often for me (facial hair, hat, lighting, hoodie, and sometimes it's just finnicky) and there are privacy concerns. The fingerprint reader isn't perfect, but for me it was better. I can touch it while pulling the phone out of my pocket and it's unlocked when I open it. I'm frustrated with Google's choice to copy Apple and remove this feature from the Pixel 4. It's literally the only reason I'm not buying one.
- machello13 7y ago
  What privacy concerns are there?
  - Judgmentality 7y ago
    I guess it depends on whether or not you consider a 3D scan of your face personal data. As face-tracking becomes more prevalent, I'd say this is the worst thing you could voluntarily give away. Your face can be scanned just walking through a crowd in public, a fingerprint is only usable when you physically touch something (and the digital version is always prompted so you can't be identified in a crowd unexpectedly like you can with a face).
    - machello13 7y ago
      I would agree facial recognition in a general sense has privacy implications — but in the case of Face ID I think the implementation is sufficiently secure.
      - Judgmentality 7y ago
        I agree Apple is one of the few companies that takes security seriously. That said, it only takes one hack/leak to compromise your biometric data forever. You can't change it as easily as a password. And you're voluntarily giving it up...for what? A worse unlocking experience? If it weren't for the novelty factor I am confident most people would not use it - probably why the hardware is removing it as an option. Also it's no secret those companies want the extra data for training better models and this is a "free" way to get really high quality data. As far as things to bemoan in tech this is pretty low on the totem pole. I'm just annoyed because I wanted to buy a new phone and can't find one that has what I want at any price. EDIT: I saw this article seconds after finishing this comment, which seems ironic. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50080586 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50080586
        machello13 7y ago
        I think you should read up a bit more on the technical implementation of Face ID. The data never leaves the phone and, even if an attacker had physical access to the phone, they could not get the information. Apple is getting no training data from it. > If it weren't for the novelty factor I am confident most people would not use it I think this is really incorrect. You really think everyone is using Touch ID and Face ID only because of the novelty factor, and not because it's significantly more convenient (and, at least in many cases, more secure)? That if it wasn't "fun", everyone would be completely okay going back to entering 6-digit passcodes?

mappu 7y ago

I know of MSc and PhD work to use the Kinect as a low-cost alignment system for radiotherapy patients.