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Conservatives are the Big Brother. They like to watch over you and control you. They are not "liberals". Liberals are the opposite of conservatives. Liberals ar

Conservatives are the Big Brother. They like to watch over you and control you. They are not "liberals". Liberals are the opposite of conservatives. Liberals are happy to give you permission to enjoy your life. Think about the semantics of the word 'conservative". It means keep things the same they are, conserve the status quo. Now who would support such a viewpoint? Of course those who benefit from inequality, who are on the sunny side of it.

mkohlmyr 7y ago
This is a overly simplistic and (sorry) borderline childish point of view. The truth is that political ideology does not fit neatly on a continuous line from "liberal" to "conservative" and that party lines have been drawn in such a way that the original semantics of the labels no longer apply to a large set of preferred policies on either side. Some kind of multi-axial graph or multi-dimensional matrix would be more useful. Social & Fiscal are two useful axes, and the bare minimum of what you need in order to sensibly represent modern day politics. It might actually be an interesting thought experiment to explore what other axes are most useful.
- galaxyLogic 7y ago
  I'm thinking more in terms of one such (possible) axis conservative-liberal, not in terms of two-party politics. So while there are countless numbers of ways we could categorize people I think conservative-liberal is a rather well-defined and by necessity over-simplified characterization. "Conservative" can be defined as a person who wants to conserve society as it is now or as it was earlier, the good old 1950s. "Liberal" means a person who would like to liberate what is currently oppressed. I assume that "conservatives" want to conserve their own power because who in their right mind would want to conserve a situation where they are oppressed. Those who want "liberation" do not want to conserve the current state of affairs.
cauliflower99 7y ago
Believing things are as simple as 'conservative' or 'liberal' is a poor point of view. One indoctrinates himself with this attitude.

mkohlmyr 7y ago

This is a overly simplistic and (sorry) borderline childish point of view. The truth is that political ideology does not fit neatly on a continuous line from "liberal" to "conservative" and that party lines have been drawn in such a way that the original semantics of the labels no longer apply to a large set of preferred policies on either side. Some kind of multi-axial graph or multi-dimensional matrix would be more useful. Social & Fiscal are two useful axes, and the bare minimum of what you need in order to sensibly represent modern day politics. It might actually be an interesting thought experiment to explore what other axes are most useful.

galaxyLogic 7y ago
I'm thinking more in terms of one such (possible) axis conservative-liberal, not in terms of two-party politics. So while there are countless numbers of ways we could categorize people I think conservative-liberal is a rather well-defined and by necessity over-simplified characterization. "Conservative" can be defined as a person who wants to conserve society as it is now or as it was earlier, the good old 1950s. "Liberal" means a person who would like to liberate what is currently oppressed. I assume that "conservatives" want to conserve their own power because who in their right mind would want to conserve a situation where they are oppressed. Those who want "liberation" do not want to conserve the current state of affairs.

cauliflower99 7y ago

Believing things are as simple as 'conservative' or 'liberal' is a poor point of view. One indoctrinates himself with this attitude.