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What’s wrong with the AGPL, that they cannot use it, as a software license?
by jbk 7y ago
What’s wrong with the AGPL, that they cannot use it, as a software license?
- zeckalpha 7y agoWhy can’t they use AGPL?
- ausjke 7y agoenlighten me here, how AGPL can protect Mongod been AWS-ed? i.e. AWS makes money out of it without paying Mongo
- ausjke 7y agoso even asking a question here got downvotes these days, how can I improve... "would you please enlighten me here, how AGPL can protect Mongod been AWS-ed? i.e. AWS makes money out of it without paying Mongo, I just do not know much about the difference between licenses honestly and am genuinely interested in it. I did check tldrlegal.com" -- will this be enough to not hurt the downvoter's feelings?
- colejohnson66 7y agoYou’re probably being downvoted for coming off snarky with “enlighten me”
- ausjke 7y agothanks. I often got downvoted without a clue to myself, everything has to be perfectly 'politically correct and grammar perfect' these days, maybe because I was not a native speaker per se. I do feel that some people here are so sensitive these days, to the point I sometimes think their mental health is probably not that great, I know this is going to trigger more downvotes, you're welcome.
- zackbrown 7y agoMongoDB used the AGPL for years but transitioned to the SSPL when AGPL turned out to offer insufficient protection from being "AWS"d. Mongo's explanation: "[there was] confusion in the marketplace about the trigger and scope of the Remote Network Interaction provision of AGPL" [1] Though, ultimately, AWS's "work-around" to this arms-race was to reverse-engineer MongoDB, abiding by its interface & APIs to offer a drop-in replacement: DocumentDB. [2] [1] https://www.mongodb.com/licensing/server-side-public-license/faq#how-data-is-stored https://www.mongodb.com/licensing/server-side-public-license... [2] https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/new-amazon-documentdb-with-mongodb-compatibility-fast-scalable-and-highly-available/ https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/new-amazon-documentdb-with-...
- saagarjha 7y ago> Mongo's explanation: "[there was] confusion in the marketplace about the trigger and scope of the Remote Network Interaction provision of AGPL" [1] I don't understand how this flies at all. The AGPL to me clearly includes AWS in its text, as it's a service offered over the network?
- detaro 7y ago> The AGPL to me clearly includes AWS in its text, as it's a service offered over the network? It does. As a consequence, AWS would have to share the source code of MongoDB with everyone. Which costs them nothing and gains MongoDB-the-company nothing, while MongoDB-the-company probably looses a good chunk of income because AWS can offer their product better integrated with the rest of AWS, under the same billing, ...
- ddorian43 7y agoThese drop-in never work out in reality. Check differences between mongodb & documentdb.
- pritambaral 7y agoI keep seeing this "AWS"d claim regarding MongoDB, but I can't find any references to any service by AWS at any time in the past that run or used any code of MongoDB. I can find services that run or use PostgreSQL, MySQL, Redis, ElasticSearch, but simply no MongoDB. What I can find are references to small companies like mLab that provided MongoDB hosting/managing as a service, that MongoDB Inc. either bought out for cheap right before going proprietary, or outcompeted.