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Nevertheless, rooting has artificial disadvantages due to "Safety"Net. So the situation on Android isn't acceptable either.

kllrnohj 7y ago
Blame the companies that want & use DRM, not the DRM provider. It's the same thing that happened on PC ages ago. If you don't like DRM, don't support games & apps that use DRM. Complaining to SecuROM that they are supplying market demand isn't useful. At least SafetyNet isn't a badly made rootkit that destroys your hardware and it's only real flaw is being semi-functional DRM.
- anoncake 7y ago
  > Blame the companies that want & use DRM, not the DRM provider. I've got enough blame for everyone involved, don't worry. > Complaining to SecuROM that they are supplying market demand isn't useful. Appealing to the ethics of an entity that doesn't have any is not useful. But I wasn't writing to Google. > At least SafetyNet isn't a badly made rootkit that destroys your hardware and it's only real flaw is being semi-functional DRM. "Whatabout SecuROM"?
  - kllrnohj 7y ago
    > "Whatabout SecuROM"? I don't understand what you're attempting to get at with this. PC DRM back in the day was notorious for rootkit vulnerabilities and even bricking CD/DVD drives (example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootk... ). The point was just at least SafetyNet isn't straight up broken like the wild-west of arbitrary DRM providers of yester-year.
    - anoncake 7y ago
      This is whataboutism. Please stop.
      - kllrnohj 7y ago
        I'd suggest you re-read that wikipedia page on logical fallacies a bit closer before attempting to accuse others of "whataboutism." But clearly there's no value to be had to anyone by continuing to debate with you, so sure I'll stop.
        anoncake 7y ago
        Call it whatever you want: The extent to which SecuROM was harmful doesn't influence how we should judge Google's DRM. So why bring it up?

kllrnohj 7y ago

Blame the companies that want & use DRM, not the DRM provider. It's the same thing that happened on PC ages ago. If you don't like DRM, don't support games & apps that use DRM. Complaining to SecuROM that they are supplying market demand isn't useful. At least SafetyNet isn't a badly made rootkit that destroys your hardware and it's only real flaw is being semi-functional DRM.

anoncake 7y ago
> Blame the companies that want & use DRM, not the DRM provider. I've got enough blame for everyone involved, don't worry. > Complaining to SecuROM that they are supplying market demand isn't useful. Appealing to the ethics of an entity that doesn't have any is not useful. But I wasn't writing to Google. > At least SafetyNet isn't a badly made rootkit that destroys your hardware and it's only real flaw is being semi-functional DRM. "Whatabout SecuROM"?
- kllrnohj 7y ago
  > "Whatabout SecuROM"? I don't understand what you're attempting to get at with this. PC DRM back in the day was notorious for rootkit vulnerabilities and even bricking CD/DVD drives (example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootk... ). The point was just at least SafetyNet isn't straight up broken like the wild-west of arbitrary DRM providers of yester-year.
  - anoncake 7y ago
    This is whataboutism. Please stop.
    - kllrnohj 7y ago
      I'd suggest you re-read that wikipedia page on logical fallacies a bit closer before attempting to accuse others of "whataboutism." But clearly there's no value to be had to anyone by continuing to debate with you, so sure I'll stop.
      - anoncake 7y ago
        Call it whatever you want: The extent to which SecuROM was harmful doesn't influence how we should judge Google's DRM. So why bring it up?