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>The left usually hates war. Do you mean the politicians or the public? If you mean politicians, I haven't seen much evidence that Democrat (center/leftish) po

>The left usually hates war. Do you mean the politicians or the public? If you mean politicians, I haven't seen much evidence that Democrat (center/leftish) politicians hate war in the last few decades. Wilson was president during WWI, FDR during WWII, LBJ during Vietnam, Bill Clinton had Bosnia and Hillary Clinton voted for Iraq. Obama presided over quite a few conflicts. Maybe Jimmy Carter? >the current left is mainly dominated by the maternal instinct What are you basing this on? >Simple. Invent a weak, childlike ally in the middle of the war zone, who are being attacked by a notorious hateful predator, and we would be abandoning them if we dont put our troops in harms way. Typically war has been based on pushing a fear of "ism." Anarchism in the early 1900s, Communism middle 1900s, Terrorism in the 2000s.

schalab 7y ago
>What are you basing this on? It should be fairly obvious if you look at any issue the left focuses on. Blacks vs Whites. Rich vs Poor. Women vs Men. The double standards of how they talk about christianity vs islam. Israel vs palestine. Literally every issue. Divides the world into weak vs strong, blames the strong for the situation of the weak regardless of causal chain. For more practical evidence, the only march which gained traction was the women's march. They tried it with latinos, science etc. The biggest issue which has resonated against Trump is the children in cages. Why do you think that is?
- CelestialTeapot 7y ago
  >The biggest issue which has resonated against Trump is the children in cages. Why do you think that is? Because you'd have to be a monster to think that children should be put in cages, left in unsanitary conditions, given inadequate food, and denied medical care to prevent the spread of disease? Is that really a left-right thing?
- gitrog 7y ago
  You're basically criticising leftists for pointing out how power structures in the world are abused and phrasing it as somehow being maternal and therefor... questionable? Or is your problem only with the causal chain? Which leftist cause that condemns an abuse of power has incorrectly assumed a causal link? I would say the biggest issue that has stuck against Trump is by a wide margin the alleged Russian collusion, but are you trying to say that people - nevermind leftists - _shouldn't_ be collectively upset about children being separated from their parents and kept in cages?

schalab 7y ago

>What are you basing this on? It should be fairly obvious if you look at any issue the left focuses on. Blacks vs Whites. Rich vs Poor. Women vs Men. The double standards of how they talk about christianity vs islam. Israel vs palestine. Literally every issue. Divides the world into weak vs strong, blames the strong for the situation of the weak regardless of causal chain. For more practical evidence, the only march which gained traction was the women's march. They tried it with latinos, science etc. The biggest issue which has resonated against Trump is the children in cages. Why do you think that is?

CelestialTeapot 7y ago
>The biggest issue which has resonated against Trump is the children in cages. Why do you think that is? Because you'd have to be a monster to think that children should be put in cages, left in unsanitary conditions, given inadequate food, and denied medical care to prevent the spread of disease? Is that really a left-right thing?
gitrog 7y ago
You're basically criticising leftists for pointing out how power structures in the world are abused and phrasing it as somehow being maternal and therefor... questionable? Or is your problem only with the causal chain? Which leftist cause that condemns an abuse of power has incorrectly assumed a causal link? I would say the biggest issue that has stuck against Trump is by a wide margin the alleged Russian collusion, but are you trying to say that people - nevermind leftists - _shouldn't_ be collectively upset about children being separated from their parents and kept in cages?