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That way google gets a cut of the donation.

by Vogtinator 7y ago

segfaultbuserr 7y ago
Oops, it's not a good idea! I now see the motivation behind it!
- toxik 7y ago
  This is the reason Apple started doing this way back. Sad to see Google follow suit. I guess the bottom line is the bottom line...
  - manojlds 7y ago
    I thought this was a Apple only thing and Google doesn't do this. For example, you cannot buy Audible books frim iOS apuo but can from the Android app.
    - anchpop 7y ago
      You can, but I don't think you're supposed to direct your users to put their credit card info in, that all needs to be handled somewhere outside the app (with a message like please sign in on our website). Which seems very blatantly anticompetitive to me. Now that I think of it, Uber has you put your credit card in. I'm not sure why that's allowed
      - themacguffinman 7y ago
        It's allowed because Play Store in-app billing is only required for digital goods & services fulfilled by the app, not physical goods & services fulfilled outside your device. Uber isn't selling you app functionality, they're selling you the physical service of transportation, so they're exempt. Quote from policy [1]: Developers offering products within another category of app downloaded on Google Play must use Google Play In-app Billing as the method of payment, except for the following cases: - Payment is solely for physical products - Payment is for digital content that may be consumed outside of the app itself (e.g. songs that can be played on other music players). [1] https://play.google.com/about/monetization-ads/payments/ https://play.google.com/about/monetization-ads/payments/
        anchpop 7y ago
        Oh, what if the donation link added you to a list of contributors to the website. Seems like that would be "digital content that may be consumed outside of the app itself" which might be a workaround. Google might ban it anyway of course
- javajosh 7y ago
  I am sort of annoyed the other replier didn't see the sarcasm here, so I'm going to point it out, and note that it's funny -- seeing the motivation behind a behavior doesn't automatically invalidate it.
chrisseaton 7y ago
What’s wrong with that? They’re paying to host and review the app and create the platform it runs on.
- carlallison 7y ago
  It's arguable since it's "donation" so one may expect to get the full donation instead of 30% cut by google but one may argue what exactly is (or isn't) a donation.
  - chrisseaton 7y ago
    I’m not sure why you’d expect to not pay a fee. Google’s expenses are the same for apps that take a charge as those that take a donation. Credit card processors charge the same fees on donations. A donation doesn’t magically make everyone else work for free.
    - arthens 7y ago
      > Credit card processors charge the same fees on donations. Yes, they charge 1/10 of what Google charges. The 30% has nothing to do with how much it cost them to run the service, so let's not pretend that they _have_ to charge them. (I'm not saying they should offer cheap/free donations, I just don't think it's fair to talk about how much it costs them to run the service given that that's clearly not the driving factor)
callalex 7y ago
To clarify, it’s a 30% cut, not just some small payment processing fee.

That way google gets a cut of the donation.

segfaultbuserr 7y ago

Oops, it's not a good idea! I now see the motivation behind it!

toxik 7y ago
This is the reason Apple started doing this way back. Sad to see Google follow suit. I guess the bottom line is the bottom line...
- manojlds 7y ago
  I thought this was a Apple only thing and Google doesn't do this. For example, you cannot buy Audible books frim iOS apuo but can from the Android app.
  - anchpop 7y ago
    You can, but I don't think you're supposed to direct your users to put their credit card info in, that all needs to be handled somewhere outside the app (with a message like please sign in on our website). Which seems very blatantly anticompetitive to me. Now that I think of it, Uber has you put your credit card in. I'm not sure why that's allowed
    - themacguffinman 7y ago
      It's allowed because Play Store in-app billing is only required for digital goods & services fulfilled by the app, not physical goods & services fulfilled outside your device. Uber isn't selling you app functionality, they're selling you the physical service of transportation, so they're exempt. Quote from policy [1]: Developers offering products within another category of app downloaded on Google Play must use Google Play In-app Billing as the method of payment, except for the following cases: - Payment is solely for physical products - Payment is for digital content that may be consumed outside of the app itself (e.g. songs that can be played on other music players). [1] https://play.google.com/about/monetization-ads/payments/ https://play.google.com/about/monetization-ads/payments/
      - anchpop 7y ago
        Oh, what if the donation link added you to a list of contributors to the website. Seems like that would be "digital content that may be consumed outside of the app itself" which might be a workaround. Google might ban it anyway of course
javajosh 7y ago
I am sort of annoyed the other replier didn't see the sarcasm here, so I'm going to point it out, and note that it's funny -- seeing the motivation behind a behavior doesn't automatically invalidate it.

chrisseaton 7y ago

What’s wrong with that? They’re paying to host and review the app and create the platform it runs on.

carlallison 7y ago
It's arguable since it's "donation" so one may expect to get the full donation instead of 30% cut by google but one may argue what exactly is (or isn't) a donation.
- chrisseaton 7y ago
  I’m not sure why you’d expect to not pay a fee. Google’s expenses are the same for apps that take a charge as those that take a donation. Credit card processors charge the same fees on donations. A donation doesn’t magically make everyone else work for free.
  - arthens 7y ago
    > Credit card processors charge the same fees on donations. Yes, they charge 1/10 of what Google charges. The 30% has nothing to do with how much it cost them to run the service, so let's not pretend that they _have_ to charge them. (I'm not saying they should offer cheap/free donations, I just don't think it's fair to talk about how much it costs them to run the service given that that's clearly not the driving factor)

callalex 7y ago

To clarify, it’s a 30% cut, not just some small payment processing fee.