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ORACLE = One Raging Asshole Called Larry Ellison Oracle is well known for arbitrary and complex licensing that have the effect of locking customers to Oracle u

by rswail 7y ago

ORACLE = One Raging Asshole Called Larry Ellison Oracle is well known for arbitrary and complex licensing that have the effect of locking customers to Oracle under threats of audits. Recently it has taken to pushing customers via licensing changes on to its own Cloud environment. Its incumbency in F100 companies ensures a vendor lockin that is only slowly deteriorating. Oracle's record of acquisition and product EOL is also well known. It's responsible for the fork of Hudson to Jenkins, the collapse of Solaris, the API court case with Google (attempting to use copyright on API definitions to stop new implementations), the fork of MySQL to MariaDB, etc etc

robocat 7y ago
I hate that VirtualBox is owned by Oracle (Innotek GmbH was acquired by Sun Microsystems in 2008). I have used VirtualBox for a decade for my VM on Ubuntu - it just worked better than VMWare for me (I recently bought a VMWare licence, but went back to VBox). Ages ago I even tried to pay Oracle for it, since they documented that they wanted USD50 per seat, but when I emailed them they had no way to accept the money! Oracle strikes me as a deeply disfunctional organisation.
- toast0 7y ago
  > Oracle strikes me as a deeply disfunctional organisation. Sure, they're deeply dysfunctional, but all big corps are pretty dysfunctional about money. I was working for a company purchased by a Fortune 500, and had a bill from a company purchased by Oracle. Between their Accounts Receivable, and our Accounts Payable, once it took about 3 months to pay the quarterly bill. Only some of the dysfunction was Oracle's fault. :P
- indigochill 7y ago
  >I have used VirtualBox for a decade for my VM on Ubuntu As a long-time VBox user myself, a neat thing I figured out almost by accident the other day: you can port VBox images to QEMU/KVM trivially on Ubuntu (and then use Virtual Machine Manager for the VBox-like graphical front-end). Just unarchive the OVF file from VBox, then use QEMU to convert the resulting VMDK file to your format of choice (such as qcow2). Import your new disk image into VMM and done!
- tinus_hn 7y ago
  Be careful if you are using their extensions package in a non personal setting, they changed the license so you can still download the package for free but they can charge you after the fact.
DonHopkins 7y ago
To be fair, they have more than one raging asshole, now.

by rswail 7y ago

robocat 7y ago

I hate that VirtualBox is owned by Oracle (Innotek GmbH was acquired by Sun Microsystems in 2008). I have used VirtualBox for a decade for my VM on Ubuntu - it just worked better than VMWare for me (I recently bought a VMWare licence, but went back to VBox). Ages ago I even tried to pay Oracle for it, since they documented that they wanted USD50 per seat, but when I emailed them they had no way to accept the money! Oracle strikes me as a deeply disfunctional organisation.

toast0 7y ago
> Oracle strikes me as a deeply disfunctional organisation. Sure, they're deeply dysfunctional, but all big corps are pretty dysfunctional about money. I was working for a company purchased by a Fortune 500, and had a bill from a company purchased by Oracle. Between their Accounts Receivable, and our Accounts Payable, once it took about 3 months to pay the quarterly bill. Only some of the dysfunction was Oracle's fault. :P
indigochill 7y ago
>I have used VirtualBox for a decade for my VM on Ubuntu As a long-time VBox user myself, a neat thing I figured out almost by accident the other day: you can port VBox images to QEMU/KVM trivially on Ubuntu (and then use Virtual Machine Manager for the VBox-like graphical front-end). Just unarchive the OVF file from VBox, then use QEMU to convert the resulting VMDK file to your format of choice (such as qcow2). Import your new disk image into VMM and done!
tinus_hn 7y ago
Be careful if you are using their extensions package in a non personal setting, they changed the license so you can still download the package for free but they can charge you after the fact.

DonHopkins 7y ago

To be fair, they have more than one raging asshole, now.