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It's understated article, but I submitted it because I thought there were some strong points. It's hard to find the right pull-quote for it, but I thought the
by nkurz 7y ago
It's understated article, but I submitted it because I thought there were some strong points.
It's hard to find the right pull-quote for it, but I thought the paragraphs about Libertarians being ignored are true: "I can’t help but think that efforts to unpack what separates red states from blue states haven’t been careful to differentiate between conservatives and libertarians. Venn diagrams of voters generally categorize voters as Republicans and Democrats or liberals and conservatives. But as is becoming increasingly apparent, the cool-headed libertarian in my classroom who’s willing to sacrifice his mother for the greater good doesn’t fit neatly into any of these circles."
I thought the comment about the framing of the gun control argument was good: "Imagine a gun control debate that avoided an argument over the value and necessity of guns, but instead was framed around how to protect civil liberties and limit gun violence without excessive governmental involvement. Imagine if care were taken to frame the discussion not as outsiders trying to impose their will on people whose culture they did not understand, but rather as one among people with a shared interest in protecting the safety of their children. My suspicion is a conversation like that would reveal useful common ground."
And I thought the comment on the abortion debate was apt: "I’ve also come to believe that if liberals started from the premise that the pro-life position is a legitimate argument that comes from love not hate, the tenor of the conversation about choice would be quite different. For if one were inclined to search for consensus rather than difference—to listen with curiosity rather than judgment—it’s possible to see far broader agreement on abortion in America than is commonly allowed."
To the extent that there is a conclusion, I think it's an argument that philosophy (and a liberal arts education) can be a useful in promoting understanding and resolving conflict: "We teach people that it’s impolite to discuss religion and politics in public. It’s wrong. We need to teach people how to discuss religion and politics. ... Instead of concerning ourselves with ensuring safe spaces for students, we need to create more spaces in which constructive conflict can occur. Trust me, no one will get hurt. Even in a classroom with divergent points of view on hot-button political issues, no one at App said anything racist or bullying. ... We can teach people to distinguish unreasonable arguments from reasonable arguments with which they disagree and, where differences are unresolvable, how to disagree reasonably."
- Pfhreak 7y ago> Instead of concerning ourselves with ensuring safe spaces for students, we need to create more spaces in which constructive conflict can occur. This is incredibly naive, and misunderstands what a safe space is and what it is for. Many humans suffer from, for example: * PTSD from abuse, war, or other trauma * Neuroatypical behaviors that are mocked/belittled/ignored in the wider public (e.g. Crowd anxiety, tics, nervous behaviors, misreading social cues, etc.) * Being Queer in an environment that is actively hostile * Being a minority in some other capacity (racial, gender, cultural, ableness, economic, political, etc.) Just existing in society can be high pressure and stressful -- a level of background noise in your daily life that most people don't see or recognize. A safe space is a place where you can let your guard down a bit, where you can simply be who you are without being challenged about it constantly. I genuinely believe that having these spaces is a healthy thing for everyone who is in a stressful minority position. It doesn't matter if you are a trans kid at some university or a conservative tech worker in silicon valley -- having a place where you can feel comfortable and not judged for who you are is valuable. It does no one any good if we're all operating at maximum stress all the time. > Trust me, no one will get hurt. Unfortunately, as a queer person myself, I don't believe you. Polite conversation is a nice ideal, but things can escalate quickly if two people have fundamental disagreements. Despite the adage about sticks and stones, words can hurt people and lead to outcomes like self harm and suicide, removal from a community, etc.
- remarkEon 7y agoIf you have problems with situations in which you are around people with whom you disagree, constantly insulating yourself from those situations sounds like a foolproof way to guarantee that you will always be stressed out and terrified of social interaction.
- Pfhreak 7y agoI didn't say constantly. And it's not that simple. "just get over it" unfortunately puts the onus on someone who for various reasons might not be equipped with the ability to do so alone.
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