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I don’t know what to say..I grew up in India. My mom would wake me up at 4.30, make me a hot beverage and go back to sleep. I would study in the early hours bec

I don’t know what to say..I grew up in India. My mom would wake me up at 4.30, make me a hot beverage and go back to sleep. I would study in the early hours because she believed that early morning is the best time for the mind to absorb and retain what I study. Go for a brisk walk at 6.00 and leave for school by 7.15-7.30. School was from 8.30-3.30. 8.00-8.30 was morning assembly which was mandatory. Extra curricular activities like music or dance or outdoor sports till sunset(6.00). My grandmother won’t let me in before 6.00 because she thought that outdoor play was important and in the sun. Freshen up and homework till 8.00. Dinner and then TV time. Reading and to bed by 9.00-9.30. In high school, less play and more classes. But these tutoring classes were outside. And I would leave by 5.00 to catch the bus to get to them. I was old enough to travel by myself. I loved school. I loved my teachers. My math tutor from 1989..we keep in touch and she is now teaching me Indian classical music by whatsapp video chat thrice a week. I call her once a year and this year I told her I am joining a neighborhood music group. She made me sing. Entirely disapproved my technique and we started classes immediately. If my teachers asked me ‘jump’, I would. My school years were the best years of my life. I don’t think I would have had this experience had I grown up in CA in this time and age..and gone to public schools here. Case in point: The public school teachers in my Bay Area city recruit parents and students to strike in their support during their union wage negotiations. It’s a travesty. I think children should wake up earlier. It’s delightful to wake up before dawn and have a goal. The rest of the day at school becomes easy peasy.

rubicon33 7y ago
Children can still wake up early. They're just not forced to PERFORM well early. You have to understand that not everyone does well in the morning. It's completely unfair to expect everyone to get up and be functioning at the same level in the early morning. That's going to advantage some, and disadvantage others. That's what this is about. Nothing stops the early bird from getting up early and doing all the things you ascribe to.
- jelliclesfarm 7y ago
  It’s not about fairness. Why is everything about ‘fairness’? It’s not a biological impediment. Getting up early is not a super power nor is childhood a disability. Getting up early and getting an early start gives you a buffer towards the end of the day. If you start late and run out of time, the whole rest of the day will be derailed. Anyways..just my 2c. I am not here to argue because I have no dog in this fight.
  - quickthrower2 7y ago
    You assume similar sleep requirements in children and adults.
    - jelliclesfarm 7y ago
      i think this new 'ban' is also based on a lot of assumptions. california is continuing to experience what george carlin called a 'child fetish'.
  - rubicon33 7y ago
    > It’s not about fairness. Why is everything about ‘fairness’? Is that not a worthy ideal to strive for, as a community? Wouldn't you prefer a world where we all have equal opportunity? Where, it comes down to who wants it more, not who had the best start? ... The rest of what you have to say is clear evidence that you've always been naturally a morning person. You don't understand what it's like to perform at 50% of your ability just because you're forced to be awake at that hour. I'd personally love to see all these pro-morning people espouse the non-biological bull rhetoric, when they're asked to stay up until 4am. Lets see you perform your best, passing tests, focussing in class, etc, at 2am in the morning.
arcticbull 7y ago
Studies show children don't perform as well in the early morning which is why this change was made. I don't want to de-value your experiences because they sound fantastic. However. Anecdota is not a substitute for science. I suggest skimming the summary by the Centers for Disease Control [1] which references numerous studies in support of schools starting later than 830am. You are of course welcome to wake your children up at any time, should you disagree with the CDC's findings, or you know, if they're morning people. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/features/school-start-times/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/features/school-start-times/index.html
- jelliclesfarm 7y ago
  I did begin my reply with ‘I don’t know what to say’. It was intended to be anecdotal.

rubicon33 7y ago

Children can still wake up early. They're just not forced to PERFORM well early. You have to understand that not everyone does well in the morning. It's completely unfair to expect everyone to get up and be functioning at the same level in the early morning. That's going to advantage some, and disadvantage others. That's what this is about. Nothing stops the early bird from getting up early and doing all the things you ascribe to.

jelliclesfarm 7y ago
It’s not about fairness. Why is everything about ‘fairness’? It’s not a biological impediment. Getting up early is not a super power nor is childhood a disability. Getting up early and getting an early start gives you a buffer towards the end of the day. If you start late and run out of time, the whole rest of the day will be derailed. Anyways..just my 2c. I am not here to argue because I have no dog in this fight.
- quickthrower2 7y ago
  You assume similar sleep requirements in children and adults.
  - jelliclesfarm 7y ago
    i think this new 'ban' is also based on a lot of assumptions. california is continuing to experience what george carlin called a 'child fetish'.
- rubicon33 7y ago
  > It’s not about fairness. Why is everything about ‘fairness’? Is that not a worthy ideal to strive for, as a community? Wouldn't you prefer a world where we all have equal opportunity? Where, it comes down to who wants it more, not who had the best start? ... The rest of what you have to say is clear evidence that you've always been naturally a morning person. You don't understand what it's like to perform at 50% of your ability just because you're forced to be awake at that hour. I'd personally love to see all these pro-morning people espouse the non-biological bull rhetoric, when they're asked to stay up until 4am. Lets see you perform your best, passing tests, focussing in class, etc, at 2am in the morning.

arcticbull 7y ago

Studies show children don't perform as well in the early morning which is why this change was made. I don't want to de-value your experiences because they sound fantastic. However. Anecdota is not a substitute for science. I suggest skimming the summary by the Centers for Disease Control [1] which references numerous studies in support of schools starting later than 830am. You are of course welcome to wake your children up at any time, should you disagree with the CDC's findings, or you know, if they're morning people. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/features/school-start-times/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/features/school-start-times/index.html

jelliclesfarm 7y ago
I did begin my reply with ‘I don’t know what to say’. It was intended to be anecdotal.