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Good riddance. It was impossible to drive on anyway, no rules whatsoever.

by semiotagonal 7y ago

newnewpdro 7y ago
It's true, driving on Market was a comedy of horrors.
- scurvy 7y ago
  Indeed! Just this morning, I saw a black Town car with the plate "REGENCY1" make an illegal left turn from Market to 9th in order to pick up some fatcat at NEMA. This was a professional driver who will still be allowed down Market under the new rules. The only solution is to ban all auto traffic and only allow busses in concrete separated lanes.
  - newnewpdro 7y ago
    The street is a clusterfuck. Most of my experiences driving it are late at night, after last-call, sharing the road with intoxicated tourists, it was total insanity. Between the copious amounts of confusing signage, partial lane divisions, crazy painted lane colors, taxis/ride shares obstructing the right lanes compelling drivers to use the bus/taxi/carpool lane to get around them... oh man. I remember one night mowing down the flexible plastic divider posts in protest, at about 2MPH. Thud, Thud, Thud, Thud, nobody even seemed to notice, well, other than my passenger. It's such a circus.
    - Karrot_Kream 7y ago
      Why would you mow down the bollards? You're acting like a bully, just because you're big and strong (in other words: you have a car), you're throwing your weight around. The bollards are an essential part of keeping cyclists safe, and you driving a multi-ton hunk of metal doesn't give you the right to endanger cyclists in "protest".
      - newnewpdro 7y ago
        If you're going to get your panties in a wad over rolling over some bollards at 2MPH I'll spare you the stories of the real shenanigans. No cyclists were threatened or harmed, there was nobody at risk. Bollards won't stop an inattentive driver from hitting anything, as evidenced by my trivial rolling over them without even scratching my car's bumper.
        Karrot_Kream 7y ago
        Your "evidence" doesn't mean anything, multiple statistics [1] have shown that protected bike lanes are safer for cyclists. Moreover I'm saddened that you have so little consideration for vulnerable road users. [1]: http://peopleforbikes.org/our-work/statistics/statistics-category/?cat=protected-bike-lane-statistics http://peopleforbikes.org/our-work/statistics/statistics-cat...
    - callalex 7y ago
      Congratulations on costing us hundreds of dollars in damage just so you could feel like a big strong man for 30 seconds.
      - newnewpdro 7y ago
        Are we talking about the same thing? I'm referring to the plastic tubes on flexible bases that spring right back up when driven over, at low speed it's as if nothing happened. This was ~8 years ago, maybe Market is different today. They were definitely standing afterwards like nothing happened, it's not like I rolled on them with my tires crushing them like the UPS guys do.
- flomo 7y ago
  Yep. I live in a place where Market St outbound is the most logical way to go. Assuming you can dodge all sorts of buses, garbage trucks, and all the hobos stumbling around on the street. Uber and Lyft refuse to route their rutabaga drivers down Market, so I always try to catch a cab because it cuts 5-10 minutes off the journey.

Good riddance. It was impossible to drive on anyway, no rules whatsoever.

newnewpdro 7y ago

It's true, driving on Market was a comedy of horrors.

scurvy 7y ago
Indeed! Just this morning, I saw a black Town car with the plate "REGENCY1" make an illegal left turn from Market to 9th in order to pick up some fatcat at NEMA. This was a professional driver who will still be allowed down Market under the new rules. The only solution is to ban all auto traffic and only allow busses in concrete separated lanes.
- newnewpdro 7y ago
  The street is a clusterfuck. Most of my experiences driving it are late at night, after last-call, sharing the road with intoxicated tourists, it was total insanity. Between the copious amounts of confusing signage, partial lane divisions, crazy painted lane colors, taxis/ride shares obstructing the right lanes compelling drivers to use the bus/taxi/carpool lane to get around them... oh man. I remember one night mowing down the flexible plastic divider posts in protest, at about 2MPH. Thud, Thud, Thud, Thud, nobody even seemed to notice, well, other than my passenger. It's such a circus.
  - Karrot_Kream 7y ago
    Why would you mow down the bollards? You're acting like a bully, just because you're big and strong (in other words: you have a car), you're throwing your weight around. The bollards are an essential part of keeping cyclists safe, and you driving a multi-ton hunk of metal doesn't give you the right to endanger cyclists in "protest".
    - newnewpdro 7y ago
      If you're going to get your panties in a wad over rolling over some bollards at 2MPH I'll spare you the stories of the real shenanigans. No cyclists were threatened or harmed, there was nobody at risk. Bollards won't stop an inattentive driver from hitting anything, as evidenced by my trivial rolling over them without even scratching my car's bumper.
      - Karrot_Kream 7y ago
        Your "evidence" doesn't mean anything, multiple statistics [1] have shown that protected bike lanes are safer for cyclists. Moreover I'm saddened that you have so little consideration for vulnerable road users. [1]: http://peopleforbikes.org/our-work/statistics/statistics-category/?cat=protected-bike-lane-statistics http://peopleforbikes.org/our-work/statistics/statistics-cat...
  - callalex 7y ago
    Congratulations on costing us hundreds of dollars in damage just so you could feel like a big strong man for 30 seconds.
    - newnewpdro 7y ago
      Are we talking about the same thing? I'm referring to the plastic tubes on flexible bases that spring right back up when driven over, at low speed it's as if nothing happened. This was ~8 years ago, maybe Market is different today. They were definitely standing afterwards like nothing happened, it's not like I rolled on them with my tires crushing them like the UPS guys do.
flomo 7y ago
Yep. I live in a place where Market St outbound is the most logical way to go. Assuming you can dodge all sorts of buses, garbage trucks, and all the hobos stumbling around on the street. Uber and Lyft refuse to route their rutabaga drivers down Market, so I always try to catch a cab because it cuts 5-10 minutes off the journey.