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Ah, meddling central-planners preventing hard-working families from doing what it takes to achieve their dreams... Don’t you just have to shake your head at pe

Ah, meddling central-planners preventing hard-working families from doing what it takes to achieve their dreams... Don’t you just have to shake your head at people who’ve literally never had to accomplish anything life-and-death in their entitled little lives, making rules to protect us? It brings a tear to the eye.

pjkundert 7y ago
My entire family would be on the bus a full hour before dawn at -20C, and wouldn’t return home until dark for 6 months of the year. Learning to bear hardship isn’t a tragedy, in a loving home. One of these things is the important factor to focus on, and one isn’t. As usual, bureaucrats focus on exactly the wrong one.
- arcticbull 7y ago
  Just because you went through something counterproductive and unhelpful and found positivity in it doesn't mean then next generation should be subjected to it too when we now objectively know better.
arcticbull 7y ago
Nope, it's science (https://www.cdc.gov/features/school-start-times/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/features/school-start-times/index.html).
- conanbatt 7y ago
  Science says 8:30, law says 8:00, so the state is not following the state's recommendation. Also, what is best for an ideal scenario for the idealized kid is not the same as what is best for the parents. Finally the biggest perpetrator of sending kids early is precisely public schooling, private schooling has variety that suits the parent's choices. What is the best public policy then? school vouchers, and let parents decide.
  - arcticbull 7y ago
    > What is the best public policy then? school vouchers, and let parents decide. That may work, it does in Sweden apparently, but your conclusion certainly doesn’t follow from your premise. This feels like classic junior engineer baby-with-the-bath water thinking. It’s easier to throw a system out and start over than make the modifications to your existing system but somehow it never does turn out exactly right, more like a ruined fresco meme.

pjkundert 7y ago

My entire family would be on the bus a full hour before dawn at -20C, and wouldn’t return home until dark for 6 months of the year. Learning to bear hardship isn’t a tragedy, in a loving home. One of these things is the important factor to focus on, and one isn’t. As usual, bureaucrats focus on exactly the wrong one.

arcticbull 7y ago
Just because you went through something counterproductive and unhelpful and found positivity in it doesn't mean then next generation should be subjected to it too when we now objectively know better.

arcticbull 7y ago

Nope, it's science (https://www.cdc.gov/features/school-start-times/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/features/school-start-times/index.html).

conanbatt 7y ago
Science says 8:30, law says 8:00, so the state is not following the state's recommendation. Also, what is best for an ideal scenario for the idealized kid is not the same as what is best for the parents. Finally the biggest perpetrator of sending kids early is precisely public schooling, private schooling has variety that suits the parent's choices. What is the best public policy then? school vouchers, and let parents decide.
- arcticbull 7y ago
  > What is the best public policy then? school vouchers, and let parents decide. That may work, it does in Sweden apparently, but your conclusion certainly doesn’t follow from your premise. This feels like classic junior engineer baby-with-the-bath water thinking. It’s easier to throw a system out and start over than make the modifications to your existing system but somehow it never does turn out exactly right, more like a ruined fresco meme.