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I think the only potential issue is that it isn't clear what sections of Market are not intended for cars currently from the signs visible from the side streets
by eindiran 7y ago
I think the only potential issue is that it isn't clear what sections of Market are not intended for cars currently from the signs visible from the side streets intersecting it, so major improvements to signage need to be made or unsuspecting people are going to constantly end up turning on to the car-prohibited sections of the street.
- mc32 7y agoCan’t they just put up bollards[1] like most places do when they want to restrict traffic? Some systems require the vehicle going through the retractable bollard to have high clearance in order to make it less palatable to circumvent. [1]Pneumatic bollards can retract and can rise to become a barrier.
- bluejekyll 7y agoBuses will still be allowed. This is just passenger vehicles. So they’d need bollards that can retract for the buses if they were to do that.
- mc32 7y agoStanford has had that since -well, a long time --though it can be abused, i.e. relatively easy to defeat, but you can have meaningful consequences for circumvention.
- notatoad 7y agoBollards that automatically retract for certain classes of vehicles (like buses) are very common and have been in use in many places for a long time. That's very much a solved problem, although it's not especially cheap
- manojlds 7y agoTaxis too.
- inferiorhuman 7y agoThey want to restrict private automobile traffic not public transit (tram, bus) and professional stuff like delivery vehicles.
- amluto 7y agoWhen most turns were banned a few years ago, I found trying to get anywhere nearby by car to be extremely unpleasant. There was no clear signage as to how one was expected to navigate. I hope they do better this time around.
- LeoPanthera 7y agoAs long as navigation software knows what to do, most people will be OK. (I've always thought that in-car built-in navigation can be a liability for reasons like this. You have to pay for updates, if they're even possible at all, and no-one ever does.)
- toomuchtodo 7y agoOne should be able to successfully navigate with no in car or mobile navigation.
- sjwright 7y agoThat complexity is a good disincentive for unnecessary traffic.
- toomuchtodo 7y agoThen remove vehicle access entirely, don’t build a dystopian traffic route. Otherwise you’re attempting to justify poor urban planning and unsafe vehicle travel.