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I wish protesting against Blizzard would have an impact on Chinese policy but there's zero chance of that happening. I understand it's a long game (no pun inte

I wish protesting against Blizzard would have an impact on Chinese policy but there's zero chance of that happening. I understand it's a long game (no pun intended), getting more and more companies to take a stand for free speech, but the impact on the lives of the people really affected by it is too small. The US government has much greater means to make a really powerful impact but I don't see that ever happening.

MrStonedOne 7y ago
The goal is not to change chinese policy, it's to change the policy of how american business interact with chinese policy. I don't care nearly as much about how china is a draconian hellhole as I do about that hellhole infecting how american business do shit.
- Waterluvian 7y ago
  That's exactly it. China is trying, and succeeding, to chill our speech.
- Dan_JiuJitsu 7y ago
  ^^ This! Fuck China. We can do nothing about evil Winnie the Poo. We CAN do something about domestic companies kowtowing to evil Winnie the Poo. Voting with our wallet. #BoycottBlizzard
- gtirloni 7y ago
  Thanks for clarifying. I guess my brain is wired to fix root causes (China) and not symptoms, but I completely understand what you're saying. It's a more pragmatic perspective (influence what is within reach). It just depresses me that, in the name of trade and the perspective of China being some #1 global power, governments everywhere will turn a blind eye to the human rights violations.
dx87 7y ago
Protesting against Blizzard may not do enough to have an impact, but it certainly helps. Here's a short article where they claim that the way China dealt with the NBA was doing them more harm than good, so the government started trying to suppress chinese nationalism since it was making them look bad to the rest of the world. I agree that it'd be better if the government did something, but company and consumer protests can be effective as well. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/10/business/china-blows-whistle-on-nationalist-protests-against-the-nba.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/10/business/china-blows-whis...

MrStonedOne 7y ago

The goal is not to change chinese policy, it's to change the policy of how american business interact with chinese policy. I don't care nearly as much about how china is a draconian hellhole as I do about that hellhole infecting how american business do shit.

Waterluvian 7y ago
That's exactly it. China is trying, and succeeding, to chill our speech.
Dan_JiuJitsu 7y ago
^^ This! Fuck China. We can do nothing about evil Winnie the Poo. We CAN do something about domestic companies kowtowing to evil Winnie the Poo. Voting with our wallet. #BoycottBlizzard
gtirloni 7y ago
Thanks for clarifying. I guess my brain is wired to fix root causes (China) and not symptoms, but I completely understand what you're saying. It's a more pragmatic perspective (influence what is within reach). It just depresses me that, in the name of trade and the perspective of China being some #1 global power, governments everywhere will turn a blind eye to the human rights violations.

dx87 7y ago

Protesting against Blizzard may not do enough to have an impact, but it certainly helps. Here's a short article where they claim that the way China dealt with the NBA was doing them more harm than good, so the government started trying to suppress chinese nationalism since it was making them look bad to the rest of the world. I agree that it'd be better if the government did something, but company and consumer protests can be effective as well. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/10/business/china-blows-whistle-on-nationalist-protests-against-the-nba.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/10/business/china-blows-whis...