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I've always wanted to try LSD, everything I can find though is either a 'research chemical' that is LSD-like or is of dubious origin. I've thought about mushro

I've always wanted to try LSD, everything I can find though is either a 'research chemical' that is LSD-like or is of dubious origin. I've thought about mushrooms/psylobicin instead but I really would like my first 'journey' to be proper old school 60's LSD not your modern china-made 'one molecule off' RC. A wise old head once told me the drug would find me once I am ready.

IIAOPSW 7y ago
You should absolutely do it. Here is my playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjIYRqpIFecr00pZcfWM44Q5OsGJrsKZh https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjIYRqpIFecr00pZcfWM4... Don't worry too much about the 60's. What you really want is an aesthetic which overlaps a lot (but isn't identically equal to) the 60's. Try and find a tree swaying in the wind, or something which moves at similar speeds with difficult to track shapes. Fireworks are also nice. Your sense of time is wrong. Set yourself a deadman switch. Use your phone to set a 20 min timer, and when it goes off acknowledge it and then reset it. Stare at a bright spot or a lightbulb for a few seconds then close your eyes. The after image will look like it got chopped up in frequency space. Do it with a friend. Give yourself 8 hours. This is a whole day affair. Ignore the old head and get on the darknet or find an in person broker.
- GhettoMaestro 7y ago
  Interesting perspective. I have heard of much success regarding shrooms and LSD in curbing alcoholism. Perhaps it spawns a deep introspective process for the person.
  - wavefunction 7y ago
    >spawns a deep introspective process for the person It can for some. It can terrorize others. And some people just giggle a lot.
- jeswin 7y ago
  This is good advice. The swaying trees are etched into my memory from events well more than a decade back. Also be watchful not to straddle the line between explorative and habit-forming.
  - RangerScience 7y ago
    FYI: I know of no person who's formed a habit around LSD (MDMA is another story). I know at least four people who either did or do LSD weekly, and at least two of those weren't microdosing. Anecdotally, LSD is habit forming the way watching sunsets is habit forming.
    - jeswin 7y ago
      LSD isn't addictive - sorry I should have been clearer. What I meant to say was that some experiments could be, or something like that.
- celticninja 7y ago
  Fireworks are nice if you are watching an organised display. Fireworks are not nice when your flatmate, tripping on mushrooms, is setting them off anywhere near you.
fiblye 7y ago
A low dose of shrooms is a good introduction to the psychedelic experience. Just be careful, because I’ve found that shrooms can give incredibly intense trips if you take just a little too much, with intense time dilation/repeating and can really mess up my perception of reality, while LSD feels consistent and more grounded regardless of dose.
tasty_freeze 7y ago
Your statement contains the idea that LSD is the pure, platonic psychedelic. In fact, LSD is just as synthetic as the other chemicals you are discounting. It is actually named LSD-25, as Hoffmann took the base molecule from the ergot fungus and methodically tweaked bonding cites around the rings, and LSD-25 just happened to the 25th variant he made. Another one he synthesized is commonly known as ALD-52; it too is available in online markets. For sure there are dangerous chemicals that are available too, but there are cheap testing kits to let you know if you are dealing with a true lysergamide or one of these more dangerous RCs. If I was to buy LSD, I'd feel far more confident buying it from a reputable online vendor than some dude in the parking lot of a Phish concert. As for mushrooms, the amount of psilocybin in a gram of mushroom can vary by a factor of 4, so even though it is a natural source, it is still a crap shoot.
- Judgmentality 7y ago
  > If I was to buy LSD, I'd feel far more confident buying it from a reputable online vendor than some dude in the parking lot of a Phish concert. How does one find a reputable online vendor? I think a lot of people are scared of the dark web because of how hard it is to avoid being tracked online these days. And even then, how much do you trust the guy who's clearly operating illegally?
  - jamil7 7y ago
    The vendors are trustworthy in that they're working hard running a business in a competitive area that depends on the ratings and feedback of customers. I imagine the day to day work is much less shady and much more mundane, akin to running an online shop.
  - rollulus 7y ago
    Darknet markets have feedback systems like clearnet shops. Depending on where you live you can get your blotters tested in a lab. My takeaway on reading on this subject is that lsd is rather safe to send unnoticed via mail.
  - stef25 7y ago
jes5199 7y ago
a few years ago I crossed paths with James Fadiman, a researcher who collects volunteer-reported LSD data. He can’t tell people how to obtain LSD for the experiments, but he says that _everyone_ he’s ever worked with had been able to find it - if you know any college kids, or dance music enthusiasts, or libertarian computer geek types, just ask them and they’ll know who to talk to.
RangerScience 7y ago
Psychonaut 101: Read Erowid. The Five S's: Source: Know about where you're getting it so you know you're getting what you think you're getting. Self: How do you respond to this chemical? What brings you comfort, what brings you stress? What might you want and not want around? Setting: Where are you? Who is around you? Set: What is your mindset and intention for this experience? For "Source"; I recommend something I call the "Wine Test". You don't need to know anything about wine to know if someone else does; get them talking and see if they have lots of details. If your prospective source is paying attention, they'll know what people's experiences have been on what they're supplying. They'll care about it being at least a good thing, if not exactly the right thing. If they're apathetic, or only care about your cash, walk away. For "Set", I recommend a little intentionality ceremony. Hold the dose in your head, contemplate what you're looking for out of the experience, and say it aloud as one part prayer and one part benediction. A good fallback is "We who are about to do this accept all foreseen and unforeseen consequences." To avoid / handle bad trips, just start changing things. Change at least one thing, then change at least one other thing, repeat until better. Music has a huge effect, so generally, start by changing that. Finally, repeat after me: Cars are hard. Fire is hot. If you think you can fly, start from the ground.
- RangerScience 7y ago
  Oh1 This one is a new addition, just remembered: A hippy in motion stays in motion; a hippy at rest stays at rest. Roughly speaking, if you start a trip laying down, you'll keep laying down. If you start it active, you'll stay active. I recommend trying a good stretching routine while it comes up.
stef25 7y ago
It's incredibly easy to find acid on the dark web and you can probably buy test kits on amazon.
celticninja 7y ago
Mushrooms > LSD
0xdeadb00f 7y ago
Some analogues of LSD have the same effects with slight differences. 1cP-LSD, 1B-LSD, ETH-LAD, to name a few. A Reddit user who has tried these (and other analogues) describes his experience and the differences here: https://www.reddit.com/r/researchchemicals/comments/cjmicx/ethlad_allad_ald52_1plsd_1blsd_1cplsd_comparison/ https://www.reddit.com/r/researchchemicals/comments/cjmicx/e...

IIAOPSW 7y ago

You should absolutely do it. Here is my playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjIYRqpIFecr00pZcfWM44Q5OsGJrsKZh https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjIYRqpIFecr00pZcfWM4... Don't worry too much about the 60's. What you really want is an aesthetic which overlaps a lot (but isn't identically equal to) the 60's. Try and find a tree swaying in the wind, or something which moves at similar speeds with difficult to track shapes. Fireworks are also nice. Your sense of time is wrong. Set yourself a deadman switch. Use your phone to set a 20 min timer, and when it goes off acknowledge it and then reset it. Stare at a bright spot or a lightbulb for a few seconds then close your eyes. The after image will look like it got chopped up in frequency space. Do it with a friend. Give yourself 8 hours. This is a whole day affair. Ignore the old head and get on the darknet or find an in person broker.

GhettoMaestro 7y ago
Interesting perspective. I have heard of much success regarding shrooms and LSD in curbing alcoholism. Perhaps it spawns a deep introspective process for the person.
- wavefunction 7y ago
  >spawns a deep introspective process for the person It can for some. It can terrorize others. And some people just giggle a lot.
jeswin 7y ago
This is good advice. The swaying trees are etched into my memory from events well more than a decade back. Also be watchful not to straddle the line between explorative and habit-forming.
- RangerScience 7y ago
  FYI: I know of no person who's formed a habit around LSD (MDMA is another story). I know at least four people who either did or do LSD weekly, and at least two of those weren't microdosing. Anecdotally, LSD is habit forming the way watching sunsets is habit forming.
  - jeswin 7y ago
    LSD isn't addictive - sorry I should have been clearer. What I meant to say was that some experiments could be, or something like that.
celticninja 7y ago
Fireworks are nice if you are watching an organised display. Fireworks are not nice when your flatmate, tripping on mushrooms, is setting them off anywhere near you.

fiblye 7y ago

A low dose of shrooms is a good introduction to the psychedelic experience. Just be careful, because I’ve found that shrooms can give incredibly intense trips if you take just a little too much, with intense time dilation/repeating and can really mess up my perception of reality, while LSD feels consistent and more grounded regardless of dose.

tasty_freeze 7y ago

Your statement contains the idea that LSD is the pure, platonic psychedelic. In fact, LSD is just as synthetic as the other chemicals you are discounting. It is actually named LSD-25, as Hoffmann took the base molecule from the ergot fungus and methodically tweaked bonding cites around the rings, and LSD-25 just happened to the 25th variant he made. Another one he synthesized is commonly known as ALD-52; it too is available in online markets. For sure there are dangerous chemicals that are available too, but there are cheap testing kits to let you know if you are dealing with a true lysergamide or one of these more dangerous RCs. If I was to buy LSD, I'd feel far more confident buying it from a reputable online vendor than some dude in the parking lot of a Phish concert. As for mushrooms, the amount of psilocybin in a gram of mushroom can vary by a factor of 4, so even though it is a natural source, it is still a crap shoot.

Judgmentality 7y ago
> If I was to buy LSD, I'd feel far more confident buying it from a reputable online vendor than some dude in the parking lot of a Phish concert. How does one find a reputable online vendor? I think a lot of people are scared of the dark web because of how hard it is to avoid being tracked online these days. And even then, how much do you trust the guy who's clearly operating illegally?
- jamil7 7y ago
  The vendors are trustworthy in that they're working hard running a business in a competitive area that depends on the ratings and feedback of customers. I imagine the day to day work is much less shady and much more mundane, akin to running an online shop.
- rollulus 7y ago
  Darknet markets have feedback systems like clearnet shops. Depending on where you live you can get your blotters tested in a lab. My takeaway on reading on this subject is that lsd is rather safe to send unnoticed via mail.
- stef25 7y ago

jes5199 7y ago

a few years ago I crossed paths with James Fadiman, a researcher who collects volunteer-reported LSD data. He can’t tell people how to obtain LSD for the experiments, but he says that _everyone_ he’s ever worked with had been able to find it - if you know any college kids, or dance music enthusiasts, or libertarian computer geek types, just ask them and they’ll know who to talk to.

RangerScience 7y ago

Psychonaut 101: Read Erowid. The Five S's: Source: Know about where you're getting it so you know you're getting what you think you're getting. Self: How do you respond to this chemical? What brings you comfort, what brings you stress? What might you want and not want around? Setting: Where are you? Who is around you? Set: What is your mindset and intention for this experience? For "Source"; I recommend something I call the "Wine Test". You don't need to know anything about wine to know if someone else does; get them talking and see if they have lots of details. If your prospective source is paying attention, they'll know what people's experiences have been on what they're supplying. They'll care about it being at least a good thing, if not exactly the right thing. If they're apathetic, or only care about your cash, walk away. For "Set", I recommend a little intentionality ceremony. Hold the dose in your head, contemplate what you're looking for out of the experience, and say it aloud as one part prayer and one part benediction. A good fallback is "We who are about to do this accept all foreseen and unforeseen consequences." To avoid / handle bad trips, just start changing things. Change at least one thing, then change at least one other thing, repeat until better. Music has a huge effect, so generally, start by changing that. Finally, repeat after me: Cars are hard. Fire is hot. If you think you can fly, start from the ground.

RangerScience 7y ago
Oh1 This one is a new addition, just remembered: A hippy in motion stays in motion; a hippy at rest stays at rest. Roughly speaking, if you start a trip laying down, you'll keep laying down. If you start it active, you'll stay active. I recommend trying a good stretching routine while it comes up.

stef25 7y ago

It's incredibly easy to find acid on the dark web and you can probably buy test kits on amazon.

celticninja 7y ago

Mushrooms > LSD

0xdeadb00f 7y ago

Some analogues of LSD have the same effects with slight differences. 1cP-LSD, 1B-LSD, ETH-LAD, to name a few. A Reddit user who has tried these (and other analogues) describes his experience and the differences here: https://www.reddit.com/r/researchchemicals/comments/cjmicx/ethlad_allad_ald52_1plsd_1blsd_1cplsd_comparison/ https://www.reddit.com/r/researchchemicals/comments/cjmicx/e...