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Free will is an illusion but you can continue to postulate otherwise. You can feel like you’re responsible while not really being true in both situations.

• tomc1985 7y ago
  Ok. How? And are we talking predestination or simply external locii of control lack of free will?
  • kayza 7y ago
    There is the narrating self and the experiencing self. The narrating self makes up stories from the information that the experiencing self feeds to it. The important thing being that the experiencing self cannot judge, it just... experiences. Takes in every bit of sensory information and let’s the narrating self make up the story it thinks matches the experience one goes through. Now, imagine the sensory overload you get when stuck on YouTube, showing those reviews, unboxing videos, whatever to you - or more precisely, to your experiencing self. At some point your narrating self will make up the story and then you end up paying 15k for camera equipment... of course, it’s your choice, right? EDIT: https://medium.theuxblog.com/the-peak-end-rule-ff7246115248 https://medium.theuxblog.com/the-peak-end-rule-ff7246115248
    • sysbin 7y ago
      This is a good explanation of the situation OP went through.
    • muxator 7y ago
      Thanks for this explanation and for the link. Once younlook at the ad-driven economy from this point of view, it becomes harder to be condescending.
• RcouF1uZ4gsC 7y ago
  > Free will is an illusion but you can continue to postulate otherwise Aren't you implying free will by saying a person "can continue to postulate otherwise"?
  • sysbin 7y ago
    postulate: suggest or assume the existence, fact, or truth of (something) as a basis of reasoning.
    • unkulunkulu 7y ago
      The conundrum is in the word “can”
      • syssbin2 7y ago
        I guess "will" would have been better.
    • unkulunkulu 7y ago
      To really live up to your philosophy you seriously need to completely abandon modal verbs in your language
• ARandomerDude 7y ago
  Depends on what you mean by "free will." Natural liberty, moral liberty, ultimate sovereignty...
  • sysbin 7y ago
    You're not free in any of those situations.
    • ARandomerDude 7y ago
      Curious where you're coming from -- Materialistic determinism? Hyper-Calvinism? Something else?
      • syssbin2 7y ago
        Hard determinism
        • ARandomerDude 7y ago
          Caused by?
• maratd 7y ago
  > Free will is an illusion but you can continue to postulate otherwise. Then you won't be mad at me for down-voting your comment? It wasn't my choice!
  • sysbin 7y ago
    I'm curious why you think I would care in the first place if that's your attitude.
    • unkulunkulu 7y ago
      This is the path of irresponsibility, leads to not caring, what denying it really accomplishes? You really will argue that you can’t even try acting otherwise? Reminds Ice T from rick and morty schwifty :)
      • syssbin2 7y ago
        Nope, a person with the childish attitude that the person exhibits is a clown in either mental capacities of understanding free will is an illusion or not. Understanding free will is an illusion increases analysing how you are as a person and in my opinion makes you become a pacifist.
        • maratd 7y ago
          > analysing how you are as a person and in my opinion makes you become a pacifist This contradicts your argument. If there is no free will, you can't make yourself become anything.
          • sysbin 7y ago
            That's not what I wrote. People who understand free will is an illusion become pacifists.
• kbutler 7y ago
  If free will is an illusion, then the influence of the algorithms is also illusory. Furthermore, Google had no choice but to create the algorithms as they have, therefore holding them (or anyone) accountable for any harm is meaningless. Much better to act as if free will is not illusory, and do what we can to improve things.
  • syssbin2 7y ago
    I disagree and that's very much a strawman argument. I still want to improve things and even when knowing free will is an illusion.